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At this time there just isn't enough there to warrant G5ing the contribs of blocked socks so I am closing this SPI just with the blocks. To be clear I'm not precluding the possibility that this is related to one of those sock masters just that there isn't enough evidence at this point in time. Given
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but I was hoping there might be a clearer link/confirmation in the CU results somewhere. And given the suggested crossover with LumCel or
Aviation geek there might be a CU result to support that. Plus there are a few SPIs on this so it'd be good to know who is who if any of them are the same person.
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that
Smartse had said the article was initially created by the editor who'd created another deleted article, and when I followed that link it led me to this SPI. So it's a simple matter of having the user rights to see who the first person was to create this article, and what else they'd created, I
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to each other. Lots of non-common IPs, but there are a few common ranges that all have in common. As to whether it's TimeQueen: unlikely. However some of the ranges these accounts are on have links to a variety of other paid editing/promotional/COI editing investigations. Regarding
Aviation geek,
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I have blocked the accounts. Those that didn't have checkuser evidence had sufficient behavioural evidence. Unfortunately I don't have time to look into the question of whether there is enough evidence to justify G5 deletions. Maybe someone else can have a look at that.
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could shed more light, perhaps. We have a new account that has access to a deleted article of a COI sock puppet editor, which was recreated almost immediately after deletion, was it not? If I understand the chain of events correctly, who else could this possibly be?
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You say that
Morkfish and Nordiskk created articles "previously created by editors connected to the TimeQueen32 Aviation geek and Sibtain 007". How did you come to the conclusion that those are socks of TimeQueen32, and not of Aviation geek or Sibtain 007?
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A lot of accounts here are stale (including: TimeQueen32, TippyMann, Boofa-Relli, YanKha, Bumbergang and AzzuriItalia4). For these, action will have to be based on behavioural evidence. The following accounts, on the other hand, are not yet stale and are
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I've not been involved in one of these discussions before, but it doesn't look great! I have no idea who time queen is? I've checked my contributions and I cannot see where I've crossed paths with that editor or any of the others for that matter?
752:, although it was eventually concluded that Aviation geek was not the master account. Over the course of October several new accounts recreated the deleted articles created by these socks, usually with almost exactly the same content:
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there was some behavior which linked him to the TimeQueen32 sockfarm. His explanation, which he provided privately, as well as a secondary check persuaded me that he was not related to the paid editing/sock group.
2895:- I still do not understand the connection to TimeQueen32, but enough evidence to compare those to each other. I'm not sure whether Morkfish and Xoxepad are stale or not, since all their edits are deleted.
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connects
Rangdon to Blessedmate and Fraancosd. All editing a little Java visualizer then creating entertainment based articles it too far fetched to believe as a coincidence.
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from a different admin, Smartse. Problem is, the diff has been deleted and I don't have the user rights to see and reconstruct my logic. I'd raised it here, previously
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Is there any other evidence for
Cosmopolite1 except editing the same page like the master? That is not strong enough evidence to block him.
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shows the interconnections between
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but those will all be stale. It's impossible to tell where one group finishes and the next begins. The same applies to the link with
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it is clear that he is a sockpuppet, but it's not clear whose sockpuppet. How do you connected him to TimeQueen32? What does
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No further evidence forthcoming; closing without prejudice to reopening should additional evidence be presented.--
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Aviation geek. They are likely TimeQueen32/that paid editing group."
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who I listed under this SPI but it was then moved (unfortunately without any trace in this one) to
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So I know if I can G5 the creations are you able to find any blocked accounts? Specifically from
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unfortunately, I found no technical connection with any of the blocked users you point to.
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What I believe is the last SPI around spamming Wyser-Pratte / O'Reilly-Hyland was at
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All of these accounts are new and their primary purpose is to create new adverts.
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I'm afraid. We should probably just deal with this as undisclosed paid editing.
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3195:(or whoever else cares) I hadn't noticed before that both this editor and
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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
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A bunch of shills using Knowledge (XXG) to promote.
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748:A large batch of socks was blocked on 3 December
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3555:. I don't have any more info for you.
2703:Morkfish created a copyvio version of
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