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context, there are many people who, for whatever reason, create different accounts for different devices. They aren't intending to do wrong, they just find that convenient. From an experienced user's perspective that looks suspicious, but it is often an innocent mistake. These accounts have been around a while, but they don't edit often - I could easily believe that they don't know about sockpuppetry being a thing. In a case where I don't think there is any intention to deceive or distort our processes, I'd probably start with a friendly message asking whether the two accounts are connected, and pointing then towards our guidance on how to declare alt accounts, rather than an intrusive use of the CU tool and a block. Does that make sense?
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Neither account has edited since you left those messages; they seem to edit very sporadically, and perhaps only log in every now and again. If you haven't observed any apparently devious behaviour, I'd probably just leave this where it is for now, and look at it again if and when they start causing
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When accounts fall into the grey zone between the best practice of SOCKLEGIT and the abuse of BADSOCK, I usually ask myself a couple of questions. (a) Could this be a good faith user who simply doesn't know about our sockpuppetry policies? (b) Is there any disruption that I need to prevent? For
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editing. Is there any evidence that they are using two accounts to deceive or evade scrutiny - like contributing to the same discussions, or !voting twice in AfDs and the like? Obviously, best practice would be to declare a connection between alt accounts, especially if you're editing the same
419:, I have had a quick look at the contribs, and I agree that they look similar: there's the article overlap that you observed, and there's a number of other behavioural similarities that make me suspicious. What I'm not seeing on a quick inspection is any obvious 537: 772: 388: 21: 634: 530: 174: 600: 709: 65: 576: 627: 167: 697: 557: 237: 17: 128: 518: 715: 673: 213: 58: 732: 654: 194: 255: 728: 822: 808: 756: 487: 476: 453: 363: 343: 330: 299: 104: 424:
articles; however, I would want to know whether we're looking at intentional deception before using checkuser here.
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Shared history is an unusual combination of biography and company articles:
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Also, in the meantime, Tishotels has denied using any other accounts (
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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
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Sure, will do. Thank you for your help with this. Regards,
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Thank you for the advice, I will give that a try. Regards,
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added to the list? It is based on the combination of
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Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations
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Plastic Universe
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