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523:, which clearly describes the situation you find yourself in and explains how to get out of it. It even has a flowchart. If what you are doing isn't working, try following the clearly described process. In particular, if your change is reverted, you are supposed to discuss your changes on the talk page. Your previous attempt at "discussion" was disasterous, because you insisted on trying to discuss all your changes at one. The linear format of the talk page dictates that this leads to confusion. Pick one proposed change, discuss it, achieve consensus, then lather, rinse and repeat. I'm sorry that you don't "get" that I am trying help you, and that you persist in using means that don't work on Knowledge (XXG), and that you project opposition where you are simply using the wrong methods. That formula doesn't lead anywhere. I've been here long enough to see it repeated over and over. The problem is not with the "other editors". It's with your behaviour. It's not adaptive to the environment, and you and not listening to others trying to explain this. 972:
misrepresentation of the subject both in talk page comments, misuse of references and POV editing, is very likely to polarise the involved editors into a "them and us" situation. I have always welcomed outside input into the article from neutral editors and used Rfcs to establish consensus on key issues. If the editors suspected in this report were actually dealing with civil, neutral editors acting in good faith would we really still look like meatpuppets?
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last December and so any necessary check-users have already been performed. I know that you know who I am and who Riveros11 is and you also know that we are different people who live on different continents. What we both have in common is that we have suffered a flagrant disregard for our privacy
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being exhibited by not just active members of the religious movement but even dedicated organizational IT PR Team members. Over the last few days, I attempted to add a number of citations, quotations to citation and make neutral typographic and tagging correction only for them to be identically
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I would also like to bring to attention that the constant taunts that editors identified as BKs are subjected to by AWatchowski, Lwatchowski, Green108, 244 and the various sockpuppets that appeared between Jan07 and Green108's return, the constant highlighting of their affiliation and gross
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Since some editors are BKs, it is possible that one or more of us have logged on from a computer at the various main centres in London or Madhuban on rare occations. However I always try and avoid this and use either my home PC or work PC that both have fixed IP addresses.
542:, the description above seems much closer to a description of your own conduct than anyone else's, especially with regards to personal attacks and sockpuppetry. I would hope this is obvious to anyone who looks at the article history and discussion. 459:
page, included some while logged out so they do not appear in the contribution history of the named account, apparently to intimdate any user contradiction the organization's position, even those well known not to be socks by other editors.
840:. Unfortunately, I have consider the persistent use of "consensus" argument; ignoring or erasing discussion to be contrivances to block further development of the article by the BKWSU IT Team, even if copied by others. -- 35:
No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user,
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over the control of this topic. This is meatpuppetry and it has gone on for too long. Unfortunately, I do not know of where else to report meatpuppets.
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with whom you share a similar approach of constantly broadcasting our (already declared) affiliation, presumably in an attempt to discredit us.
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issues going on here, but it's beyond the scope of a SSP case. I suggest this case be filed at arbcom if anyone is interested in pursuing it.
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Although I am sure that these are separate individuals, I suggest that this is clear as possible an example of dedicated meatpuppetry.
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is very skilled in the use of Knowledge (XXG) accusation and attacks to manipulation. Perhaps he just enjoys provoking other editors.
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With all independent contributors intimidated off, the discuss and article remains virtual fallow, e.g. 3 edits in two months;
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I have stated clearly that I know these individuals are separate but that I can substantiate in detail a collusion between the
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report into account. Although the checkuser was inconclusive, I believe the contrib evidence is still useful. Note that
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have filed disproportionate report of vandalism, personal attacks, checkusers, sockpuppetry complaints regarding the
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The previous RFCU show Riveros11 and Appledell are not the same. There does seem to be meatpuppeting and
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I'm not going to waste any more keystrokes on this. These contribs should say enough about the situation
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Even when I have placed extensive documentation and justification of change I see no where else,
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This sockpuppet report seems to me to be an attempt to game the system and/or cause disruption.
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has been brought into this out of goodwill but is aping the main team. It would appear that
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry.
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have also declared that they are BKs. Me and these two accounts were involved in the
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states that in such cases, such individuals should be treat the same as sockpuppets.
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I've asked for arbcom input here as that arb case is central to this SSP case.
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is also. Both exhibit a trend of following the leadership of
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has been editing my user page and knows I am not new
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In a previous Arbcom decision, 358:states that he is an official 1: 1023:16:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC) 987:18:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC) 952:Would also appreciate taking 947:15:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC) 916:05:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 845:22:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 596:07:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 547:06:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 533:06:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 493:04:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC) 322:22:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC) 343:by the BKWSU team members. 1040: 40:for detailed instructions. 521:Knowledge (XXG):Consensus 551:How could I possibly be 32:Please do not modify it. 53:Suspected sockpuppeteer 960:is a reincarnation of 607:IT PR Team (currently 371:it was disclosed that 964:by his own admission. 101:Suspected sockpuppets 313:Report submission by 833:to make reversion. 466:it is dismissed by 362:IT PR team member 495: 479:comment added by 1031: 1021: 1018: 1012: 945: 942: 936: 897: 876:deleted contribs 820: 799:deleted contribs 779: 758:deleted contribs 739:I consider that 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Suspected sock puppets
read this
User:Bksimonb
Bksimonb
talk
contribs
deleted contribs
page moves
block user
block log
Bksimonb
talk
contribs
deleted contribs
page moves
block user
block log
Riveros11
talk
contribs
deleted contribs
page moves
block user
block log
Appledell
talk
contribs
deleted contribs
page moves
block user

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