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790:. Using this template there are two options: the user is being racist to another user, which is a personal attack and should not necessarily carry more weight for the racist nature of the comment (a judgment that should be made by a blocking admin); or the user is not being racist in which case placing this template on their talk page is a personal attack itself due to the stigma associated with racism. |โ
1906:, a much older game again played by a wide variety of people. Absent something showing the importance of these games to YRUU, or YRUU, I see no benefit to the template. Even if such evidence existed, it would seem better to just list the details in the individual articles, then have the YRUU article have a section noting this and linking back. โ
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I don't think that using NPA as a replacement of this is sufficient. I think users making broad statements of a homophobic nature shouldn't get a NPA statement, but a statement regarding hate speech - for their statements aren't aimed specifically at one person. And since there's not a current "No
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Wikipedians who happen to hold it shouldn't be punished for their opinions.
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641:- I would be heavily opposed to redirecting this to npa. Npa is clearly written with the purpose of warning editors not to snipe at each other; it has nothing to do with editors who replace the page
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