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advisable to find equivalent
English language sources for at least the basic material. For points where only a German source is available, it should be retained, and where the best sources are in German (like town data), they should also be included, especially for topics relating to German history or culture. It is not appropriate to eliminate sources merely because they are in German or some other language without replacing them with English sources. If German books have an English translation available, that translation should be added.
661:, because they must pass the verification-step for style & content, which is almost like passing a test as semi-featured articles. There seems to be a compulsion (or obsession) to get German articles verified, as if the non-verified articles would be considered harmful trash. The push or drive to verify articles causes frequent severe mindsets on German Knowledge. Imagine the horror if a new article were to need 3 volunteer days of source verification:
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English Knowledge style for birth and death dates (no asterisks and crosses/daggers) and article sections ("Further reading" or "Sources", not "Literature"), and when not using citation templates, be sure to use English order for publication place and publisher name and to translate abbreviations
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Knowledge do have sources, though sometimes fewer than would be considered ideal in the English Knowledge. The articles will naturally emphasise German language sources, but articles here are expected to emphasize English language sources. It is very highly
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English speakers. It is also good practice to add English-language references when possible, even when they are less good than the German-language
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German
Knowledge requires fewer references than English Knowledge has come to require, and is more accepting of articles with few or no footnotes but a list of sources or external links. Especially when creating a new article on English Knowledge by translating, but also when expanding by
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Keep in mind that translation is more an art than a science. A phrase in one language might not be expressed easily in another. In general, we seek the best equivalent translation (answering the question, "How would we say that in
English?"), rather than demand a literal translation.
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translating, it is advisable to add footnotes; often this can be done by consulting listed sources or external links and creating footnotes to them on points that they support. But it may require additional research to satisfy
English Knowledge
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German images often use "|mini" which must be changed to "|thumb" (or "|hochkant" changed to "|upright=0.9"), and always change "|links" to "|left". Using "|mini" in the
English version can download a huge megabyte photo onto a
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Although the German
Knowledge has been heavily patrolled for "recent changes" to enforce grammar (or translations), many articles lack specific sources or footnote citations. Some of the German articles seem to contain
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There are very few German stub articles, because, by early 2009, the creation of an article was often contested if its content was short. Articles that are nearly perfect, but only 99% correctly translated, might be
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Click through to the wiki-linked articles on the German article and look at the interwiki link to English Knowledge to find the appropriate article to link to in the translation. If there is none, consider using
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rather than a bare red link. This assists future translators as well as readers who may be able to make use of the German article. Simply linking to the German article using the ] prefix creates a frustrating
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Machine translation software may erroneously translate placenames, titles of films, songs, etc., titles in references, and even people's names (for example, the city of Essen showing up as "food" or "eating").
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Google Translate sometimes drops verbs, or whole phrases (even in 2016) in long sentences, or where a verb could have multiple meanings. So a verb gets dropped, rather than risk showing a wrong equivalent
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