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is used in a non-pejorative sense. But in the sense of "raising controversy", practically every work of non-fiction that is widely read does so. Maybe a limited class, like certain biographies, can be non-controversial in simply listing some usefully grouped facts. But all the books that advance
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I must admit that when I last proposed (successfully) to have "Emperors of Wei" renamed to "Emperors of Cao Wei," I forgot to check analogies with other Chinese states' emperors, and the categories now look out of compliance with analogous states. I am requesting that these be renamed so that the
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and all of its subs should go. Still, it should be noted, when someone chooses to declare their political beliefs it can help in disproving POV bias in settling disputes on politically related articles. Having a grouping may not affect that, but an editor may choose to ask someone else of a
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with First Nations which is just a Canadian/USAian usage difference, for some of the same people). "First Nations people" is required by the grammatical form, but "Finnish people" would be better as "Finns", and "German people" as "Germans". Avoid needless verbosity.
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not all weapons companies are defense companies, not all defense companies are weapons companies. An avionics manufacturer may be a defense contractor, whereas the manufacturer of hunting knives could have nothing to do with defense
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From the article, 'A conglomerate is a large company that consists of divisions of often seemingly unrelated businesses.' Holding companies do not always meet that definition. Many of the ones I'm aware of, are in tightly related
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controversial. Those books that "fall stillborn from the press" (to quote Hume) may not achieve controversy, but neither are they thereby notable (and probably don't have articles).
1082:, although this category type seems prone to be devisive, it can be a way for users to find others with similar interests for collaborative purposes. Perhaps it should be renamed 956:. Another stupid pair of vanity categories. You want to delete all the Jewish-oriented categories and keep all the Wikipedian categories; what a bunch of muffins you people are. 1375:. Agree with Lulu here, and moreover, this shows the need to categorize these books by actual topic; most of these books really fit in in one or another "controversial" genre.-- 337:
Not a meaningful category. Most major business have a holding company at the top of their corporate structure. I have moved one article to the more meaningful
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That said, a closer look shows most (but not all) other categories include the ugly extra word "people", so I guess I won't try to swim upstream on this.
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Serves no real pupose. If one wants to declare his or her political affiliation, he or she can mention it on his or her user page.
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I don't think there are likely to be any articles about manufacturers of hunting knives, and if there are they can go in
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would this be better as a cat redirect? There are already 2 new articles in this cat and it is a very common term.
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One doesn't have to be an American or a member of a particular party to be a "Democratic Wikipedian". Rename
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That isn't the point. There are thousands of holding companies with articles. It is a meaningless category.
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Same reason as Natives of West Glamorgan - see yesterday's entries - but this time nominated by the author (
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Not a useful category. Only contains two articles, which are both about companies in the same group.
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individuals. It has an ambiguous title, which would be more precise if changed to
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There aren't any new articles, they are the same two I left in place yesterday.
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You are splitting hairs. The category system should be useful and consistent.
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It's clearer and merging the US and Canadian categories is not a good idea.
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Ideally this should work, but in an open encyclopedia it probably won't.
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As above, completely subjective and impossible to maintain.
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names would match the other states' emperors/empresses in
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for deletion
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Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion/Controversial books
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November 29
Category:United States musical groups
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Category:American musical groups
Category:U.S. film directors
Category:American film directors
Category:American writers
Category:American screenwriters
Mushroom
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Category:American musical groups
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Rogerd
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Postdlf
01:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Carina22
12:32, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Category:Natives of South Glamorgan
Kbdank71
16:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
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21:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

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