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most uploaders don't usually bother to do so, it is important in GA-class articles or above to make it easy for readers to see where the images come from and why they are freely licensed. Your description above as to where the map comes from and why it is freely licensed needs to be included on the image page so that when someone clicks on the link they'll understand exactly why the map does not appear to them. I'll proofread the article text, hopefully later today.
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Please look again at the image files and see the changes I made to the source descriptions to make it more clear the source of the images and the context in which they are used in the source site. Although it is a pain in the neck to include this much detail in the image file pages, especially since
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I don't think the quote boxes are needed. I would expect the high brass of the IDF to be trumpeting the quality of the missile at ceremonies and stuff, even if it wasn't good quality, and I think making it so prominent is POV. Also, newspaper titles like JP and Haaretz are supposed to be italicised.
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Image placement in "Arrow 2" is a bit messy, and the Feb. image could be larger (image use policy has recently changed so that default thumbnail is no longer a strict norm). Put both on the right, or one further down? The Block-2 images are too small to see important details. Could they possibly be
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Please audit the ref section. For example, the publisher of "Defense Update" is not listed (it is really British, with US spelling of the title?). A lot of the items seem short on documentation. Can you check the rules? And if an online publication is a regular publication, can you cite the date of
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Linking: "United States" and other anglophone country-names are not normally linked (better to a section or a daughter article, if at all ... here, it doesn't seem necessary at all). "Israel" link better to a focused article (Isn't there one on the Israeli def. forces?, and within it a section on
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I am skeptical about the army-technology website profile, which is used about 45 times for citing. The website is a bit evasive about who runs it and what it is about, and it has a large testimonial page, with endorsements from military industry groups. Is this a website for advertising military
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More link-focussing possibilities: Rabin's name is linked, fine, but PM of Israel (and probably DM of I) will be prominently linked at the top of that article, surely. So just retain the one link. "Chinese" ... not usually
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I'd wish to keep the quote boxes, they represent the attitude that IDF gives to Arrow. Should only JP and Haaretz be italicized? What about Globes, Reuters, Jane's? Should I italicize strictly newspapers?
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Thank you much! I hope "Green Pine" and "Arrow 3" will grow to main articles, so the amount of citations here will drop. I also removed extensive citations in the lead as you mentioned.
1412:, nice work Flayer. EyeSerene is right about the citations in the lead; as long as it's mentioned and cited in the body of the article, there's no need for citations in the intro. 21: 1260:
Now tell me please, how one can put a direct weblink to an image that is only temporarily available at the website? It was created with this website, it is not kept there.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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publication as well as of retrieval? Mixture of title and sentence case in the ref list. Sentence case much preferred for article/page/chapter titles.
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If the images are now gone from the MDA website, that doesn't mean that they can't be used. It just needs to explain that in the image file.
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equipment? But your got the Min. of Def. linked anyway, a second later, so I'd drop the vague link and save the blue carpet.) "Hebrew" linked
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gives a weblink as a source, but the weblink does not directly connect to the image or identify how to find it at the website given.
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Magazines and book titles and all those as well. Reuters/Penguin Publ BBC etc are companies. Jane's Defence Weekly would be it.
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Reduced the dependency on army-technology website, now almost everywhere it appears with another supporting reliable source.
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I am renominating this article for A-Class review because I think it has a better chance now to receive the A-class status.
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Do you need "currently in existence"? I'd rather "ever to have been developed", but you hardly need that either.
969:"In 2005 and in 2008 "Green Pine" detected and tracked similar drills of Syrian "Scuds"." - is it better now? 383:
Is it all in summary style? Seems long. Are there opportunities for spinning off one or two daughter articles?
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hardware? If so, it can't be a reliable source as it would talk up the goods on behalf of its partners.
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source is a dead link. If source cannot be verified and/or PD established, then the image needs to go.
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Extremely comprehensive and seems to be well-referenced, just a few problems with the readability. –
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on en dashes as interrupters in sentences. Not hyphens or spaced em dashes. Also see "Ranges" here:
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construction and testing of". When there's an "of" to the right put a "the" to the left (usually).
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There is an inconsistency with firstname surname, and surname, firstname in your references
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to link the other names in the middle of the lead, but bolding looks messy like that.
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I think yes. "Currently in existence" appears as it is in the source I quote.
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Hebrew linked twice because of the template "lang-he", I can't change it.
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User:Poliocretes is clearly skilled, I owe the copy-editing to him. :)
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says that the tools are released under the GNU General Public License"
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It is. Arrow 3 has some potential for its own article, but not yet.
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long-ranged (I guess it can't be just "long-range", can it?).
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Thank you! I removed most of the citations from the intro.
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MDA did some changes on their website. I fixed the link.
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Is the little box for US contribs usual formatting?
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Assessment
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Arrow (missile)
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Arrow (missile)
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Analysis
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