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73: 93: 334: 53: 83: 203:, so he took some quotes from it and called Doctorow "silly and foolish" for talking about himself in the third person. However, since Orlowski had gone on vacation, Doctorow was unable to get a correction until after he reached Orlowski's editor. Doctorow also complained that after the misquotations had been removed, no record was left that a correction had been necessary. 103: 63: 113: 183:
With respect to his Knowledge (XXG) article, Doctorow related that an anonymous editor had misrepresented some of his views and cast aspersions on the success of his books. Doctorow fixed this as soon as he became aware of it, then progressively worked with other editors to produce a satisfactory
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article, Meyer conceded that an erroneously reported death was less disturbing than a false report of an arrest "for some truly reprehensible offense" would be. Meyer nevertheless concluded, "But if someone is going to slander me horribly on the Web, I'd rather that he chose an editable medium."
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Doctorow argued that the test of both systems was not "how they perform when they work as they're intended to -- it's what happens when they fail". On this issue, he favored the Knowledge (XXG) process, in which he said you could trace how the truth was negotiated, over the hidden workings of
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article. He summarized, "That's what it was like when someone maligned me on Knowledge (XXG): within five minutes of discovering it, I was able to correct it, and subsequently I had a public discussion with the guy, hammering out a consensus."
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blog that contrasted Knowledge (XXG) with one of its most frequent critics. In his piece, Doctorow compared the process of getting information corrected in his Knowledge (XXG) biography with his experience in seeking a correction of an
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on the German Knowledge (XXG) was changed to indicate that he had died on 24 December. The change, actually made on 28 December, survived until someone else noticed it on 3 January. Meyer commented on the events in a treatise entitled
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Meyer now had his own personal experience to relate as well, in an incident that was also reported by a number of German-language media sources. The offending revisions have been deleted from the page history, but a
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Despite encountering significant errors in their biographical articles on Knowledge (XXG), two people have published lengthy defenses of the project. Both article subjects,
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Like most people, Meyer thought the report of his death amounted to a student joke. In an observation on the media coverage, he gave as his impression that, after the
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The Orlowski piece for which Doctorow wanted a correction involved people editing their own Knowledge (XXG) biographies, after the reports of
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A similar defense of Knowledge (XXG) came from Meyer, a computer scientist whose
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