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column by Frank Ahrens. Ahrens declared himself "a fan of Knowledge (XXG)" but said the incident "exposed the critical weakness of Knowledge (XXG) that prevents it from becoming the go-to source for Internet knowledge that it ought to be." He pointed to the expectations of reliability people have for
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appeared, indicating that the spokeswoman only confirmed the death, not the cause; the report of a heart attack had come from a pastor at the family's church. By the time Reuters published, more than six hours had transpired since the initial reports of Lay's death. Reuters previously contributed to
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on his blog, Lih concluded that the evolution of the Lay article was actually fairly routine for the circumstances. From his background as a journalism professor, he compared it to the typical "sausage factory tour" of a newsroom where the parts of a story are put together as a deadline approaches.
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All of this transpired by 14:12 UTC, when the article was semi-protected, which cut down on the problems with this particular issue in the article. Interestingly, before semi-protection all of the edits indicating a cause of death, whether correct or erroneous, came from unregistered users. Reuters
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to suicide two minutes later, and Reuters only began its chronology after this point. Their timeline included both causes being mentioned simultaneously, then backpedaling to saying the cause was "yet to be determined", an edit attributing the supposed suicide to Lay's "guilt of ruining so many
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on CNN.com put it, "rather irresponsibly" according to Lih. The accuracy of the story itself garnered less objection, but the reporting in the body of the article didn't explicitly reach the conclusion contained in the headline, much like last month's
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that it is problematic to approach Knowledge (XXG) "with the same expectations as a uniformly and systematically edited publication". He suggested trying to manage expectations while also systematically improving quality through such efforts as
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Lih concluded that the Reuters story was an example of "parachute journalism" where the reporter wrote from a perspective on the outside of a community, but without taking the time to understand it.
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did note the later insertion and removal of some "speculation as to the cause of the heart attack" connecting it with stress from Lay's recent criminal trial and conviction.
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came out with a widely reprinted story focusing on some of the early changes to Lay's article, with the headline "Ken Lay's death prompts confusion on Knowledge (XXG)".
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noted, in the rush to put the story out on its wire service, Reuters itself managed to misreport the source of its own information about the cause of Lay's death. The
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reporting Lay's death (at 14:01 UTC) was actually in error, as it gave the date of his death as 3 July. This was fixed in the following edit, and the
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conference purporting that Knowledge (XXG) would start permanently freezing articles once they reached a sufficiently high level of quality (
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last week brought renewed media attention to how editors respond to current events on Knowledge (XXG) articles.
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dismissed the notion that "confusion" was the problem or that Knowledge (XXG) was "reeling", as a
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Aside from this error, some criticism was directed at the sensationalism of the headline.
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an encyclopedia and the problems when this is misused to serve an agenda. On the CBS
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of the story said the information came from a Lay family spokeswoman. Subsequently a
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subsequently issued a correction and changed its headline after Wales complained.
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News reports of Lay's death began appearing around 14:00 UTC on 5 July. The
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lives", and finally restoration of a heart attack as the cause.
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Reuters tracks evolution of Ken Lay's death on Knowledge (XXG)
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also carried a follow-up on the story Sunday in its
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