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on Thursday by Ashkan Karbasfrooshan, the operator of a blog network. He wrote up an analysis of the potential value of Knowledge, "strictly for entertainment purposes", as if it were an advertising-supported business instead of a non-profit organization. (Switching from non-profit to for-profit is
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and been turned down. Calacanis called Karbasfrooshan's study a "very, very conservative valuation" and said that Knowledge would be worth $ 5 billion as a private company. He argued that a single leaderboard of ads on Knowledge would bring in more than $ 100 million annually. (Karbasfrooshan used
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A thought exercise on Knowledge's potential value as a business prompted debate last week, bringing the issue of advertising back into view as well. Valuation estimates tossed about ranged from half a billion dollars (all figures US$ ) up to five billion. In the end, however, the entire discussion
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by criticizing the $ 5 billion valuation as "nonsense", arguing that Knowledge lacks the track record as a business that investors would look for. He gave his opinion that Knowledge was better off for now raising funds from donations, and while he thought licensing could help bring in revenue, he
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Even without any growth, the revenue projection came out to $ 42 million per year. With relatively low operating costs, Karbasfrooshan assumed that most of the revenue would be profit and settled on an annual figure of $ 35 million. Converting the profit calculation into a value of the overall
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Thanks to persons involved in analysing the issue of valuation. I always thought that Knowledge must be very valuable. The analysis proved it. However, it has more value than the possible commercial use. Apart from its commercial value, it is the best example of creativity of a large virtual
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As the business model for this hypothetical for-profit, Karbasfrooshan focused primarily on advertising. He calculated that Knowledge could bring in $ 2.8 million every month from display advertising. This was done using publicly available estimates of unique visitors (for example,
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The figure Calacanis cited as potential advertising revenue, $ 100 million, coincidentally was the same as the amount Wales mentioned in asking what copyrighted material people would most want to have freely licensed (see
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assumptions based on one leaderboard, or banner ad, plus a smaller "island" billboard. He also expected that the large inventory meant that some ad space would go unsold.)
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doubted that advertising would ever be used. A key concern was the inability to account for a possible "mutiny" by contributors, a real risk given Knowledge history (the
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Calacanis offered afterward was to add a function to search the web (not just Knowledge); his estimate for this revenue was similar to that of Karbasfrooshan.
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the notion of advertising, saying, "Ads are content just like everything else." He thought it would be easy for Knowledge to have relevant and targeted ads.
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The reaction led Calacanis to back down from some of his initial language and proclaim his admiration for Knowledge contributors. As a
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site. Calacanis added a controversial appeal for Knowledge to accept such advertising, relating that he had proposed this earlier to
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projects collectively ranked as the sixth-most-visited network of sites in the world for September according to
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Calacanis's post received considerable attention from other bloggers and was featured
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the decision not to advertise "a good stance both ethically and practically."
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was created as a fork, partly over fears about advertising).
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reporter Mick Brown, it would be "like selling Greenpeace".)
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Calacanis has posted even more follow-ups, one with a
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