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any navy since 1992. Since a fundamental cornerstone of GA, A, and FA-class articles is that the material be stable and not subject to fluctuations battleships fit this niche perfectly; they are new enough to be fresh in the minds of many people yet the absence of these ships from the roster of the world's active warships means that the histories of the ships and their classes are very stable. This makes it very easy for members to pick a battleship or battle cruiser article at start or B-class, locate the sources needed to improve it to meet the requirements for outstanding content, and then push the article up to FA-class. As for me personally: I've been called the "father of
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but including all applicable articles within said scope. The maritime history task force, for example, is run jointly by MILHIST and SHIPS but covers all articles that relate warships, which is more specific than WP:MILHIST's drive for all military related articles or WP:SHIPS' coverage of all ship related articles. This still leaves a wide assortment of articles within the scope – carriers, destroyers, subs, cruisers, etc. By comparison, Operation
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Japanese capital ships, for example) is that I don't tend to think it's doable. When you see other people having great success in a similar topic area, you begin to think that you can have the same success in a similar topic. It only takes one successful editor to get the ball rolling. In that regard I place tons of the credit with TomStar81, whose early work on the
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