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comment space that needed an ArbCom warning label. I recognize that ArbCom-issued warnings, like the one above, are to go in Knowledge (XXG) in places where certain topics are discussed, but a newspaper like this one should be more idealistic about free speech until and unless there is a problem with
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that currently available food derived from GM crops poses no greater risk to human health than conventional food, but that each GM food needs to be tested on a case-by-case basis before introduction. Nonetheless, members of the public are much less likely than scientists to perceive GM foods as safe.
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The RfC has received a wide range of inputs, with most non-administrators and administrators supporting the third option, and some non-administrators and a few administrators supporting the first and second options. Proponents of the third option believe ECP would be valuable in stopping disruption,
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procedure applies to this page. Parts of this page relate to genetically modified organisms, commercially produced agricultural chemicals and the companies that produce them, broadly construed, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing the parts of the page
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The controversy about GMO is a red herring. The question is if GMO food brought us anything worthwhile. After 20 year the answer is still no or you should include all the negative consequences that it brought us. When I read about paid editors, I am sure that they are not happy to address GMO
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it was argued that, while GM foods could potentially help feed 842 million malnourished people globally, laws such as those being considered by Vermont's governor, Peter Shumlin, to require labeling of foods containing genetically modified ingredients, could have the unintended consequence of
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There is a general scientific agreement that food from genetically modified crops is not inherently riskier to human health than conventional food, but should be tested on a case-by-case basis. No reports of ill effects have been proven in the human population from ingesting GM food. Although
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GMO articles faced a less-than-smooth transition afterwards, as several editors debated the best way to include the new language and replace the old. In the first few days after the RfC was closed, additional text was deleted and replaced while some editors debated whether to change language
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If it is unclear which parts of the page are related to this contentious topic, the content in question should be marked within the wiki text by an invisible comment. If no comment is present, please ask an administrator for assistance. If in doubt it is better to assume that the content is
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it presented to new editors, it was eventually approved and technically implemented, with editors being granted the "extendedconfirmed" user right after reaching the requirement. ECP was rolled out on April 5, with ArbCom passing a motion allowing administrators to use ECP to prevent
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be exempt from routine enforcement of topic-based ArbCom restrictions? Among the world's most reputable news sources that allow comments, I thought it was accepted as tradition that news comment sections welcome the most absurd and inflammatory nonsense that anyone imagines to post.
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has been opened on whether linking the accounts of paid editors to their profiles on other websites (such as Elance) is acceptable. Supporters of this exemption believe that it would help identify paid editors, while opposers contend that harassment and outing is unacceptable in all
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to change the current wording was opened. Moderated under tight conditions, with strict word limits and behavioral restrictions, there were 22 proposals; nearly 90 editors participated. After one month of discussion, the RfC was closed on July 7, and the first proposal prevailed:
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Well, it seems that I am the editor who put the template here, and I am also the editor who made that oppose, go figure. About the RfB, there's no need to revise that; I don't care and it's no big deal. As for the Discretionary Sanctions,
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labeling of GMO products in the marketplace is required in many countries, it is not required in the United States and no distinction between marketed GMO and non-GMO foods is recognized by the US FDA. In a May 2014 article in
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Since that time, ECP occasionally deviated from its ArbCom use: without raising the eyebrows of many, it was used for other reasons, such as to prevent BLP violations. Within three months, an administrator
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Knowledge (XXG)'s coverage of the safety of GM foods in particular has been a source of conflict. Many editors believed the then-current wording on GMO safety was inadequate and provides little context:
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allowing use of ECP for any purpose, not just for ArbCom and sockpuppetry: that, with community scrutiny, administrators would be allowed to use ECP protection. The RfC gave editors three options:
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The legal and regulatory status of GM foods varies by country, with some nations banning or restricting them, and others permitting them with widely differing degrees of regulation.
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Genetically modified organisms (GMOs) have been a controversial topic for years on Knowledge (XXG), and one with a less than peaceful environment: a number of editors have been
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a new protection level called extended confirmed protection ("ECP" or "30/500", for short) with the same function. Although the proposal received some complaints regarding the
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and most of all, remember here we are discussing the story about the decision, and that discussions about the subject itself are best taken to the relevant discussion pages.
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Tryptofish is correct, we can comment, but we must maintain decorum and comply with the policies and guidelines relevant to discretionary sanctions. Please remember to
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in 2013. If enacted, it would be given via an RfA-like process and include full deletion rights and some other tools from the administrator toolkit.
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immediately before and after the RfC-mandated language. Approximately a week later, those disagreements had calmed down.
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is not exempt from policies that apply elsewhere, but that does not mean that editors cannot give their opinions. --
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To restrict use of ECP to ArbCom and for preventing sock puppetry when less restrictive protection fails,
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may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the
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I am looking at this warning above, and do not recall ever seeing an ArbCom warning like this in the
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that less restrictive protection fails and the protecting administrator informs the community at AN.
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interrupting the process of spreading GM technologies to impoverished countries that suffer with
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while its opponents believe that it would deter newcomers and disenfranchise occasional editors.
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decided to run this month, and, with zero opposition, promoted to the elite coterie of
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Busy month for discussions: New ArbCom restrictions; genetically modified food safety
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The blue padlock denoting pages protected under extended confirmed protection.
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You may not make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on this page (except in
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More GMO discussion: recently closed RfC on genetically modified food safety
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proposing a new user group called "moderator" has been opened after an
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comment section on an issue that is under discretionary sanctions...
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discussion space. Do ArbCom rulings apply to discussions in
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that the protecting administrator informs the community at
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Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the
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Well, I presume they apply to editors commenting in the
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enforced the restriction. In January 2016, an editor
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