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200: 1577:, these are all good observations. My most straightforward response is that the general lack of success of the industry is why these incidents you point out are so newsworthy. More specific to this article: scams of the kind that this article describes are perpetrated by actors who don't even care about whether or not edits "stick" on Knowledge (XXG). The only reason they can make money at scale like this is because success on Knowledge (XXG) is irrelevant to their business model. Lots of community members dedicate much of their volunteering time to rooting out UPE from marketing companies. In my role supporting them, I'm consistently impressed at how good they are at these investigations. 854:
problems with her credit card. Many credit card issuers have an effective system for avoiding liability for fraudulent credit card transactions. Charges coming from merchants who have had too many recent customer complaints can trigger a refusal of the transaction during the time you're waiting on the phone. Apparently, this is what happened to one of Cazares's transactions. She later tried to cancel her previous transactions, and with determination and some luck she is now off the hook. Luckily, she had saved the documentation on all the credit card payments and refusals.
192: 1497:, I think your statement concerning the low likelihood of paid editors actually influencing content is way too optimistic. Multiple sting operations have demonstrated that it is possible to get even quite absurd, or absurdly promotional, content into Knowledge (XXG). I recall one focused on Bollywood and one on German politics that was demonstrated on German TV – the paid content was only removed after the programme aired. A former Wikimedia official in Germany (has?) had a successful paid editing firm for years ... Will look up the 2013:. I think the best way for admins as a group would be to confirm a rule that no admin can accept paid editing work (with a few crystal clear exceptions like a) work on behalf of the WMF or a chapter, b) as Wikipedian-in-residence at a bonafide GLAM). It would just make it easy for us to tell the world "Don't even think about a Knowledge (XXG) admin doing paid editing for a scammer. It will never happen (again)!" To be fair I've only seen about 4-5 cases documented over 20 some years. 130: 150: 1875:, congrats on your win. It's a shame to see somebody else trying to grab a piece of the glory! I went to check on their side of the story, but they weren't answering their chat this time - rather than chasing me around their site every 10 seconds with another chat request! If they are reading this story, maybe you can count that as another victory. It's hard to chat and rip off customers if they know they've been caught in another lie. 347: 986: 1987: 110: 140: 36: 160: 120: 1640: 374:
work are subject to the new "Marketing Company Mediation" provision added to the terms of use when it was updated in mid-2023. The updated terms of use have enabled the Foundation to increase our enforcement of the community's undisclosed paid editing rules in the last six months. We will continue to refine and resource this enforcement in 2024.
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the German Knowledge (XXG) article on a small political party. At 100 euros each. Ahead of an election. And that attempt was instantly successful. The exact phrases demanded appeared in the article. No volunteer noticed or reverted these insertions. (And the paid editor in question was also active in the English Knowledge (XXG),
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looking for one just one or two notable subjects. Much valuable time is taken from some of our most senior and energetic editors, working on sockpuppet investigation and deletion discussions. Administrators' names and reputations are dragged through the mud. Nobody on Knowledge (XXG) benefits from having scammers operate here.
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we are aware of with a 0% success rate. Unfortunately, victims of these scams don't know this, and many paid editing firms act in a predatory manner taking advantage of this. If anyone receives an email or social media message from someone offering to make a Knowledge (XXG) page for you, then it is almost certainly a scam.
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Absolutely. I've on more than one occasion seen someone stating they're someone's "official representative" or the like. They're more often trying to whitewash an article than get it deleted entirely, but when those efforts are thwarted, they sometimes then start asking how they just delete the whole
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Sadly, wikipediaafd.org is known to those who've been dealing with VRT and such. That one is plain extortion (+ identity fraud, trademark violation...). I hope the domain is taken down soon, but they'll come back quickly under a new one. I'm planning to write more info and maybe proposals for further
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The Bollywood sting operation was by an Indian journalist who said in 2020 that paid editing in the Knowledge (XXG) biographies of minor Indian celebs was well organised, lucrative and pervasive. I can email you details if you are interested; I don't think it was covered in the Signpost. I don't know
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aka the FTC. From what I've seen, they take a lot of time trying to come up with the right general policies, publish these policies widely, then perhaps make a big splash with a few big cases. Which big cases? A fairly partisan group of 5(?) commissioners ultimately decides. In short, I think they'll
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I've actually been pinged a couple of times by people asking if someone claiming to be me really was. The answer, of course, being "Good God, no." I suppose they ducked the scam, but if they're doing things this blatantly fraudulent, wouldn't it seem that law enforcement could take some action on it?
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Potential customers can protect themselves by asking normal questions about who they are dealing with. Get names of the people who contact you and of their bosses. Check if they are using the puzzle globe Knowledge (XXG) trademark. Also write down telephone numbers and addresses and save invoices and
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that her main interest in Elite Wiki Writers was having them provide editorial services for a book that was near completion. They offered her a Knowledge (XXG) article as part of a package deal. The editorial services are a sideline that is not currently offered on the Elite Wiki Writers website. But
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The Orangemoody scam worked like an extortion racket. Targeted articles would be nominated for deletion, or denied approval for publication. Then other editors, presumably working for the same firm, would offer their services to reinstate the article and "protect" it from deletion or unwanted changes
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You do not need to pay someone to get a Knowledge (XXG) page; the majority of firms that want you to pay them to get one are scams. They will not succeed in delivering a live Knowledge (XXG) page. The very small handful of legitimate marketing companies and reputation management firms engaged in this
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Both "Elite Wiki Writers" and "Wiki Moderator" list the same address, 99 Wall Street in New York City — which appears to be a maildrop rather than a real office — and a second address in Skokie, Illinois. The company appears to have preyed upon more than 100 customers in 2023, according to a customer
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My advice is to be extremely skeptical of anyone claiming that they can guarantee to make a Knowledge (XXG) article for or about you, even if they claim to be an administrator. It is likely that they are not telling the truth. The portfolios that they might send you as "proof" of their experience are
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The volunteer community is extremely diligent about finding and deleting any promotional material that marketing companies try to post on Knowledge (XXG). Thanks to the community, paid editing firms rarely succeed in influencing the actual content on Knowledge (XXG). There are paid editing firms that
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The thing is, Shaun, the Magazin Royale programme didn't report on an exceptional instance of successful content manipulation by paid editors. They approached a paid editing firm run by an ex-Wikimedia Germany board member and asked him to place specific (in this case quite nonsensical) phrases into
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Good catch, I'll change "the WMF" to "stewards". That said, global locks and the use of stewards to make blocks, is something of a special case in blocking sockpuppets, often involving the WMF. There's a special place in the sock drawer for people who declare that they are paid editors and then work
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Everybody associated with this scam, except for Elite Wiki Writers, comes out a loser. Wikipedians are victims because the encyclopedia's trademarks are used without permission. Volunteers' time, Knowledge (XXG)'s most valuable resource, is wasted sorting out hundreds of poorly researched articles,
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that Elite Wiki Writers did not tell him that he would have to be disclosed on Knowledge (XXG) as paying for the rewrite. They did tell him that Knowledge (XXG) required five citations and that they could provide these quickly from reputable news sources for an extra fee. He did his own research and
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that he first ran into the article about him in Knowledge (XXG) several years ago, some time after it was first published. He didn't like the tag on the top about a possible conflict-of-interest by an editor. As time went by it started to look out-of-date, and he especially didn't like the photo. He
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These customers include many small businesses (such as a single-store painting supply company), writers and artists, churches and religious publishers, a couple of lawyers, some little-known financial firms, nonprofits, a private detective agency, young entrepreneurs, former government officials and
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The main victims, of course, are the scammers' customers. People with very little knowledge of Knowledge (XXG) and its rules are recruited via email, social media sites, and the company's own websites and then lied to. They are told that they can get a valuable article about themselves on Knowledge
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The surprises kept coming. She was dissatisfied with the quality of the new draft — and the inaccuracies in it — and she only saw one new source in the draft. After she was offered another discount, she attempted to pay with a credit card. But the payment wouldn't go through. So another credit card
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in 2008, and was its CEO until she retired in 2022. She's since written a book on the organization and its work, and is already promoting it with a book tour. Unfortunately, she's not familiar with Knowledge (XXG)'s rules. She thought having a biography of her own on Knowledge (XXG) would help book
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is needed here. It doesn't do anybody any good, to spout off on how you are going to report a crime, and it could get you blocked here. But when you registered for Knowledge (XXG), you don't park at the door your right (and sometime duty) to report crimes. In short don't talk about it, though when
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These people are certainly victims. Less than 5% of them succeed in getting an article on Knowledge (XXG). Prices start at about $ 750, and quickly escalate to $ 1,500 or $ 10,000 — or more — as the "Elite Wiki Writers" claim that extra work is needed, or requirements have been raised by Knowledge
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Jared sounds like a mensch and it was good of him to talk to signpost. Jared, if you're reading this, comment on the talk page of your article "Hi Im Jared" and post the links you sent to the scammers. Somebody will find it and update eventually! Or if you have social media, you can just ask "Can
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to be wrong, hence the only 95% failure rate for paid articles, I guess. One requester I saw said pretty much "Hello, I'm about to release a new book, and my publisher said it would be a good idea for me to have a WP-article. I also think I'm ok per WP:N, so please put my draft in mainspace!" And
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Great article. I've seen these advertisements, and of course knew what they were offering was not deliverable, as most if not all Signpost readers would. However the general public won't know this, at least a significant portion will take the adverts at face value. Perhaps sharing this article
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Mergens agreed to have the company write the article about her, but later was told that "Knowledge (XXG) moderators" now require eight citations, three more than the draft then had. And they would be willing to write the needed stories and quickly place them in top quality publications for only $
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He was approached out of the blue on LinkedIn by a woman who offered to rewrite the article for a fee. He must have asked too many questions, and she eventually dropped the discussion. Then a new person appeared on LinkedIn to help rope him in. After some discussion about the article, the new guy
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How is somebody who wants to pay for an article on Knowledge (XXG) to know which websites are legitimate and which are scammers? As a rule, potential customers of these firms should be very skeptical of "Knowledge (XXG) editing firms" who advertise on the web. They nearly all show some signs of a
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They then quickly write a low-quality article, sending the customers a copy of the text. The scammer bills them, telling their victims that approval of the article by Knowledge (XXG) will take some time. Once they've received payment, rather than going through the effort of trying to publish the
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Elite Wiki Writers offered Cazares several book editing packages, costing up to $ 8,500. Due to the low quality of the services and high cost, she soon believed that she was being scammed. She had difficulty getting a bank to accept a credit card payment, even though she had previously seen no
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A good first question for a potential customer to ask Elite Wiki Writers might be: "have you complied with the license on those illustrations and do you have permission to use the trademarked puzzle globe?" If they answer "yes" on the trademark, you can contact the Wikimedia Foundation's legal
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There could be a contending view though, the basic format is used by other companies (or at least I think they are other companies). Lots of people know the basics of this scam. The only way to combat it may turn out to be "let everybody - including their customers - know how it works."
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Melissa also had troubles with her credit card. Elite Wiki Writers sold her additional services — for almost $ 4,000 — to ensure that the Knowledge (XXG) page could go live and "be protected". The services supposedly included eight ghostwritten articles to serve as citations, a Google
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The low number of them posted as actual articles (as opposed to drafts or user pages) could be from a lack of trying. There's little evidence that many of their proposed articles are written up as drafts at all, and if they are, they're commonly left without improvement until they are
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I think most of this "market" is about 2 companies in Karachi, Pakistan (Abtach and Digitonics). Most websites of this kind are connected to one of these, just fronts. There are many other UPEs and scammers, but this particular modus operandi is particular to a very small subset.
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that she was first approached on LinkedIn. "It was a fake photo and profile," she said, which has since been removed. She was sold the basic + startup package last fall, which was to include a personal Knowledge (XXG) page and a page about her business, costing over $ 2,000.
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After he first suspected that he was being scammed, he learned that Knowledge (XXG) required that he be identified as paying for the article. He asked Elite Wiki Writers about it, but they wouldn't give him a straight answer. At that point he decided to cancel all payments.
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almost certainly fabricated. As are the physical addresses that they list on their websites; they don't list their real addresses because they don't want to get caught by the Foundation. There are no paid editing firms that have a relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation.
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whether his claims were accurate either, but I would imagine that because of the smaller volunteer pool paying attention to pages of Indian singers, actors, etc., capturing them would be easier than it would be for equivalent European or North American minor celebs.
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article (and the risk of getting caught), the scammer may simply abandon the article, keeping the money. When the customers complain, the scammer blames the delay on Knowledge (XXG), or tells the victim that other paid services are needed to ensure publication.
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In 2021, three editors who claimed to work for Elite Wiki Writers (or related firms) did post a total of 71 articles as drafts or articles, in a clumsy attempt to become rule-abiding "declared" paid editors. They were globally locked by stewards following a
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It is true that volunteers are active and vigilant, but it is also true that it often takes volunteers years to notice and address these situations. In short, Knowledge (XXG) is imperfect (as is the media in general ...) and I am always wary of implying
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Yvonna Cazares is a community organizer who has previously held several community-oriented positions in California's state and local governments. Her first contact of any sort with Elite Wiki Writers was when she was approached on LinkedIn. She told
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sales, so she contacted Elite Wiki Writers, who promised that she would not have to reveal that she paid for the article because they "use legitimate Wiki-moderators". She even got a $ 100 discount off the $ 750 fee for sending in a detailed draft.
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That "99%" may be an unscientific estimate, but it's not far from our own estimate of over 95%. Knowledge (XXG) has made great strides in fighting this type of paid editor. But we've barely made a start with another part of the problem.
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on the effectiveness of reporting to the authorities, but I doubt that it hurts anything either. Don't put all your trust in the government to get back your money for you. You need to take steps to protect yourself, first, last, and
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If the company doesn't have all of their user account names posted on their sales pages, then it's likely a scam since this is required by the terms of use. This goes for websites as well as things like freelancing profiles on
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She was shown a mockup of a Knowledge (XXG) article on a non-Knowledge (XXG) page. She asked how she could edit it and was told that Knowledge (XXG) would charge her $ 5,000 to have external admin access to the page.
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Then Mergens discovered multiple complaints on an online customer review site against Elite Wiki Writers. Finally, she was able to totally cancel the order, and get most of the credit card charges reversed.
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I think you got it! The only thing that surprises me the least bit is the $ 500 price point. But that really shouldn't matter to them - when you are only selling a puff of hot air, the margin is always
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While I did briefly see this case last month, it's pretty old news that scammers claim to be admins. And very few admins are or have been actual scammers. The whole thing was addressed at
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has also had experience of this. This is a drip, drip, drip method of adding promotional content to existing articles which over time can flood and completely distort a topic area:
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The current scam is much simpler, and doesn't involve extortion. The company advertises on their online sites, via email, or approaches people through social media sites such as
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an extensive interview. Jared is clearly a notable subject for a Knowledge (XXG) biography. He's had two successful careers: the first as a lawyer and judge, then as an author.
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If someone receives a spam email from someone offering paid editing services, they should report the email to their email provider as spam to prevent it from going to others.
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To maintain the privacy of the victims of the scam, we have not linked to any website that might embarrass them, and have not revealed their names without their permission.
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would also have liked to see more about his career as a lawyer and a judge. But mostly he just wanted to see something that his grandchildren could read and be proud of.
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One victim, who did not wish to use her real name because she feared harassment, we will call "Melissa". When asked how she learned about Elite Wiki Writers, she told
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You should know that 99% of all "Knowledge (XXG) editing companies" are scams that charge you $ 1000 for articles then never write them. Do not give them your money
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I've occasionally started an article after a "Please make an article about me!" request at the Teahouse etc. Just because a COI-editor wants something it doesn't
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Does the reverse happen? People paying to get their Knowledge (XXG) article removed (because it is mainly about something embarrassing they did in their past)?
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Since these companies tend to lie and impersonate existing long-time editors, even if they mention their accounts, one should be additionally skeptical.
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provided Elite Wiki Writers with articles about him from local newspapers and major news sources from his state, but they did not use those sources.
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If someone receives a LinkedIn or social media message with an offer for paid editing, they should report the profile to the social media platform.
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Both Mergens and Jared had similar difficulties with credit card payments, even though neither had any previous problems with their credit cards.
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After demanding the refund of all credit card charges, she has been harassed and needed to block Elite Wiki Writers employees on her telephone.
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Many of the apparent scam victims on the Elite Wiki Writers customer list feared harassment, or were too embarrassed to be quoted by name in
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If someone is scammed or has been scammed in the near past, they might be able to charge back the fraudulent transaction on their credit card
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I just don't want to have anything to do with a disreputable organization. I'd want any article I pay for to be strictly above board
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So another sign that a company might be scamming you is if they promise to "protect" the article. See Knowledge (XXG)'s policy
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If they answer any of these questions "no" then don't believe another word they say. You are almost certainly being scammed.
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retired military officers — the whole range of people who would like some publicity and aspire to a Knowledge (XXG) article.
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i've talked with what i'm 99% sure is an outpost of this scam. i'll spare you the mudslinging, but here's the bullet points:
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Schemes like this, sadly, are probably not on FBI's list of priorities due to other stuff like business scams to the tune of
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This said, I don't doubt that there are lots of people trying their hand at paid editing who are absolutely hopeless at it
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come up with good ideas and policies most of the time, but aren't going to have speedy or effective enforcement. IMHO.
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The transcript indicates that the company was breaking many of Knowledge (XXG)'s rules. According to the policy for
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To screen people who contact you about a Knowledge (XXG) article or to help prevent them from scamming others, see
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following the online chats shown above with "GreySWA", they offered this reporter the same type of services.
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If they reached out to you (via email or message) rather than you reaching out to them, it's likely a scam.
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Are administrators required to declare if they have been paid when they edit or accept a paid for article?
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Are administrators required to declare if they have been paid when they edit or accept a paid for article?
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I had a sense that the Indian promotion was well organized a few years ago when I was more active at the
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I think I'll go check around to see if another company looks better. Can you make any recommendations?
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I can understand, I've been on Knowledge (XXG) for 17 years now and I have published over 900 pages.
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Help stop paid editing! If you have ideas on how to better stop paid editing, please leave them at
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This should be syndicated out to all mainstream publications rather than staying just on Signpost.
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These are my most impactful suggestions for people who want to "do something" to help the problem:
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I received an email from someone who claims to be a Knowledge (XXG) "admin". The email ends with "
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since 2018, but this mention has reminded me to add her book as "Further reading" in the article.
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legitimate BLP problems and those shouldn't be overlooked just because they're raised clumsily.)
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Scams by "paid editing companies" have been happening on Knowledge (XXG) since at least the 2015
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Are you required to disclose my name on Knowledge (XXG) when I pay you to post an article?
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Are you required to disclose my name on Knowledge (XXG) when I pay you to post an article?
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they have "packages" which cost $ 500, $ 700, $ 900, and $ 1500, offering such perks as
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someone update my Knowledge (XXG) page?" Lots of updates have been triggered that way.
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I'm looking up your history. Are you a paid editor, or does somebody else handle that?
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said that he was moving to Australia, but gave Jared a contact at Elite Wiki Writers.
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other documents. These are just the steps you should take for any large transaction.
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5,000 apiece. Mergens settled for three "C-level" articles for only $ 1,500 apiece.
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If they answer any of these questions "no", then they are likely trying to scam you.
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You're asking for all of this sensitive information yet not even telling your name.
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Hence, There is no mention that it is a sponsored article or that you paid for it.
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article. (Of course in those cases, one must be cautious; sometimes there really
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but never saw independent investigation about it. Would love to see that link. ☆
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you think it is the right thing to do, just report the crime to the authorities.
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Can you direct me to one of your paid editor's declaration of their paid status?
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Can you direct me to one of your paid editors' declaration of their paid status?
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Another victim — let's call him "Jared" — asked not to be identified, but gave
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they specifically said they do not disclose that they are paid editors on wiki
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There won't be any mention that It is a paid article. It will be independent.
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they claim to have "15-20 moderators", and refuse to disclose their usernames
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they posted a list of articles which they created (they did not create them)
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Part of the fee goes directly to other administrators to approve your page.
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Can other people change my preferred version of my Knowledge (XXG) article?
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Hah! That "Elite Wiki Writers" site claims they won the last WikiCup!
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