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international media source outside the jurisdiction of Indian government control to disregard the government request. Arguments opposed to publishing the name include respect for the expertise of those courts, respect for national decision making to know what is best for local culture, anticipation of a good future of peaceful collaboration with the government of India by granting this request, and concern for the burden on Knowledge editors in India if they bear the responsibility of an online global decision including non-Indian Knowledge editors.
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examine both the consensus and discussion. It will not come as a surprise to Knowledge editors that Wikipedians value their editorial independence. The closing statement emphasizes that Knowledge editors did not arrive at that decision at the behest of the court, but rather because community deliberation found reasons for doing so and because a supermajority of editors supported the decision.
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policy. The argument in favor of publishing the name is that maximal freedom in publishing is the preferred position. The argument opposed is that naming the victim is not a censorship issue, as Knowledge will definitely have an article on the crime, and that article does not benefit significantly by
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The final decision was to exclude the name from the article. While closing statements typically are descriptions written by Knowledge editors and for Knowledge editors, Tamzin included a summary explanation of the overall process in anticipation that the court, media, and public observers may wish to
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A final set of arguments is on the practicality of collaboration between Knowledge and the government of India. The argument in favor of publishing the name assumes that other arguments establish that Knowledge editors should publish the name, and in that context, it is best for Knowledge as an
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and reputable journalists who are publishing the name. Arguments opposed to publishing the name make various claims, including that sources publishing the name are mistaken, or that they have since removed the name, or that the higher quality sources do not publish the name while lower quality
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whether to mention the victim's name. On 16 August, that debate became part of a discussion on how to title the article, which was ongoing until 9 September, when the disagreement about including the name split into its own discussion. All of this was part of the
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One set of arguments about the name relates to victims' rights and women's rights. The argument in favor of naming the victim is that her story becomes known and enables activism to reduce
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and "explain clearly why you feel the balance of interests lies one way or the other, in order to reach consensus accordingly". Knowledge editors did that, and
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The incident was widely reported on 10 August, the day after it occurred; English Knowledge editors created the article a day after that. By 13 August, editors
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Indian courts order Knowledge to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus: WMF Legal on the scene, Tamzin makes big RfC close
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Another set of arguments is about following the lead of what other media outlets do. Arguments in favor of publishing the name point to seeming
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usual and familiar to editors, where editorial decisions are reached by group discussion about how to implement policies and guidelines.
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Indian courts order Knowledge to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus
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In response to the court decision, the legal department of the Wikimedia Foundation posted
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A large group of protesters, one of whom holds a sign reading, "We want justice"
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