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editor can find a qualified source, but even the USAF themselves can be somewhat careless in these matters. However in most cases I am not guilty of introducing the problem, I am the editor who is trying to solve it. For instance do I leave a particular image that is at odds with the accompanying text, or shall I add some additional text that qualifies the image, thus helping the reader, but that I cannot 100% back-up with 'reliable' sources? I'm sure that I have read that Knowledge (XXG) is a work in progress (
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journalist (Chapman Pincher). But frequently it is just subtleties of aircraft markings e.g. 123 sqdn features a yellow fin flash on its aircraft, as seen in this image... In this second case I am somewhat relying on the person who added their caption to the image being knowledgeable and correct, although typically I check a variety of images from different photographers, and then select one image as a 'source' for the statement.
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and creating and contributing to related articles. My interest is in smaller wars that not as many people know about. But I want to discuss my ideas with all the people working on these projects, because I want to be a team player and not just jump in without consulting anyone. I want to be extremely
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Flickr ? Daily Mail ? I am getting impression that Flickr is one of the more acceptable sources for images, but where do we stand if those images contain snippets of information that I would like to incorporate into an article? In the case above, Flickr provides whole newspaper articles from a named
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I also find I am sometimes seemingly the only person to see an obvious mistake that was added to Knowledge (XXG) up to 20 years ago. Unless it isn't a mistake, it's just me? Who do I bounce my ideas off? The TeaHouse is good, but does it have the sort of honed expertise in aviation that I am looking
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sources, supporting the other with the tiniest snippet of information (because the current name of the airfield is different to that given in the 'reliable' source). Should I remove it, and leave everyone wondering which specific local airfield goes by that name? And BTW, by what dark & devious
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on their user talk pages because they may be the more likely members of the project to be working on your topics. Note that many list specific topics that they are most interested in. That might narrow down the list. You can also reply to me here saying you are notifying task force participants of
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must be a huge issue across Knowledge (XXG), not just for me. But I am also proceeding on the basis of making my own judgements as to what is reliable, and then waiting for some kick-back if I should overstep the mark. For example, on the issue of 'yellow fin flashes', of course it is better if an
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You're not the first and won't be the last to note glaring gaps in the Knowledge (XXG)'s coverage of a particular subject area. There was a major effort years ago to create articles on RAF bases, but it fell by the wayside, and one of the editors copied coyrighted text, resulting in some articles
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I will add that the Sino-Japanese war is comparatively obscure so it is unlikely many editors will want to jump in to begin with. However, my view (based more on general site policy than the specifics of this battle, since I also know little) is that since Wahreit, the other user in this content
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is indeed a huge issue across Knowledge (XXG). Nothing can be added without a reliable source. Military historians are generally comfortable with evaluating the relative merits of various sources, but it is worth noting that we prefer secondary sources to primary ones - the reverse of the usual
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Actually, right here/right now I cannot make the same connection that I did before in order to definitively identify the correct airfield from all those in the St. Omer area. I vaguely recall tracing through Adolf Galland, the unit he was flying with in 1941, and their unit history, possibly
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as a shortcut to using css to specify a background colour in something which isn't a comparison table. The lack of a legend doesn't help either. Without one, you have to read the text to deduce that pink rows indicate ships that were sunk which rather defeats the object of colouring the row.
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As a relatively new editor here at Knowledge (XXG), I have a bucket-load of questions relating to military aviation articles, many of which are probably issues that have been thrashed out before, but I don't know how to phrase my search criteria, or where to start. And if you use the phrase
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I have seen editors redirect some of these these articles to larger Knowledge (XXG) articles on Indian military history, which makes me wonder if they are making excessive individual articles. They have written a lot of articles in a very short time, some of which are:
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Both these users are the subject of active SPI requests. If you could keep an eye on the articles in the meantime that would be highly appreciated. I'm not sure who we have in the Indian content realm who could take a look at them purely from a content perspective,
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That said... I'd be lying if I said I'd never corrected/updated existing unsourced text with things that are true but not verified in RS yet. I'd just advise doing so selectively and on information that is entirely unobjectionable, particularly as a newer editor.
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Never mind the nuclear bombs, even the small article headed 'Buy Bowlers' is relevant - the 492nd Fighter Squadron, originally nicknamed 'The Madhatters' are these days known as 'The Bolars' (flight callsigns are limited to five letters, B-O-L-A-R, hence the
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being deleted or reduced to stubs again. Work awaits editors with the interest, knowledge and resources to deal with a subject area. All editors are volunteers, so they get to pick and choose their own assignments, which can make coverage very uneven.
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Also I see a lot of similarities between the Morriste War and the Waco Sigde, both being Christian apocalyptic cults facing off with government forces, so I used that as a background for how I would organize this info-box.
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to assert the 3rd Division's involvement. Niderost's article, published in December 2007, is un-cited and appears to have paraphrased the unsourced Japanese OOB from the 9 Aug 2007 or later revision of the wiki article:
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Yes there was the posse but it was supported by federal and territorial marshals as well as other local militias. Also, we should keep the United States as a combatant if federal forces were involved as US Marshals.
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As of writing this, the article still erroneously states the IJA 3rd Division was involved using a handful of sources including Niderost's article and a recent book that also cites Niderost. I have a detailed
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The Japanese 3rd Division (one of the most elite IJA divisions at the time)..." "...enjoyed air and naval superiority, as well as access to armoured vehicles, likely Type 94 Te-Ke tankettes, and also Type 89
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dispute, hasn't replied to the talk page since late July, removing the claim you believe to be erroneous would be justified. If they revert without adding any comment to the TP, I'd suggest going to either
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Once again, I'll just wait and see if this is genuinely needed (cause if it is then goodness me this will requires hundreds of citations if I'm gonna have to put one for every single belligerent)
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Hello gentleman I am new to this, so please be patient with me. I am hoping to join your group, and the American Military history taskforce. Specifically. I have some ideas about adding to the
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more information was added. Neither of these edits had inline citations added but despite this the order of battle was left more or less unquestioned for well over a decade. It was not until
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as a reference, so I do not understand why that info-box has flags while this one does not. I understand why the US is a belligerent but why does it have flags and list so many leaders.
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Note that in the entries for 1502–1510, 1526, 1633–1634 and 1666–1671 the reference purports to support the line about who won, but there is no citation for the consequences.
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Reposted from coordinator page for wider coverage since other experienced users and those interested in the particular subject may be interested in this and wish to reply.
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new articles, I came across a new editor who has been making a lot of Indian military history articles on events that are not familiar to me (some seems small).
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Editors are advised that Featured Articles promoted before 2016 are in need of review, if you had an article promoted to Featured status on or before 2016 please
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your question here started with or ending with {{ping|Username 1|Username 2|...}} adding as many user names as you choose and all will get the message. See
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however I think that military info-box would be better than the one I used at Ruby Ridge. Anyway, what is the best way to organizes units in an info-box?
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when I took notice and updated it to reflect Japanese sources stating it was in fact not the IJA 3rd Division but rather the IJN's Shanghai SNLF.
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A week and not a single comment on this matter? Does nobody care about historical accuracy on subjects related to the Second Sino-Japanese War?
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has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the
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has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the
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If you find an unsourced claim and cannot find anything that supports it with reliable sources, I think you should remove it. I also wouldn't
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and I came to a problem where the units section of the info-box looks poor. Anyway I can improve it. I really like what I did with the
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The U.S. Marshals during this period didn't function in the same way they do now. You might want to reevaluate some of this, too.
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The best way to organise this case is not to include since the "units" appear to be synth - it was a posse - no more, no less.
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on RAF Biggin Hill and turning the redirect into a separate article. That's a common way in which new articles are created.
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situation in academic military history writing. If you have questions about sources, you can bring them here or to the
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Thank you very much for the response and advice. It is highly appreciated. I will make some changes to the article.
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resorting to either French Knowledge (XXG), or the German version, or both? Maybe I should pull the whole edit?
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Is this article worthy of B-class or does it perhaps need improvement, and if it does, what should I improve?
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an active RAF Station (from date to date, often featuring WWII). It is now farmland (or something similar).
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The sources used in the article are questionable. It is difficult to assess whether this is not a hoax.
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Most excellent, thank you. I think I can see now what is going to occupy the next five years of my life.
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It's to show the battles of the war, I didn't exactly know a better way to do, perhaps I can find one.
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Returning to the Daily Mail; again your comments were most helpful. A few weeks back I qualified for
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Can anyone help me with details of the military parade in London on 19 July 1919? Please reply at
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Does anyone know why the ship dates in the rows in pink are an extra space to the right? Thanks
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having their own listings; one article is about the building and the other about the airbase.
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I mean the updated info-box seams to simplify the event when it was a lot more complicated.
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in the Bibliography has first and last round the wrong way, and is missing a year (2010?).
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history/United States military history task force
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On using information from images, information on Knowledge (XXG) needs to come from a
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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from
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Would be great to get input from MH editors who are familiar with this topic area.
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Is this really necessary? If it is then sure, but just sounds like a hassle to me.
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Fair point, I'll be sure to either find some or just remove these "consequences".
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Footnotes 5, 12, 15, 21, 31, 41, 46 and 51 seem to be citing the Knowledge (XXG)?
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Smashing response! And I would agree, except in this case (IIRC) it is given as
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Why do all RAF stations start with the phrase 'RAF Lower Middle Slaughter is a
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thread on the article's talk page discussing the participating Japanese forces
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Destruction of cultural heritage during the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip
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Not my main area of expertise, but passingly familiar. I will have a look.
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respectful to everyone's time and efforts. Please advice when possible.
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has stated the Japanese attackers were the IJA 3rd Division. Later at
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to be on the same line as the first line of text to its left? Thanks
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Notwithstanding these specific issues, where do I ask the questions?
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now that you have over 500 edits. That will give you access to the
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You have come to the right place for military aviation expertise.
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hotel and spa, and yes, they are both the same historic building.
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Here's another question; how might I access old copies of the
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which is obviously the same location, but not the same thing.
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Here are a couple of hoary old chestnuts to kick-off with;
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German atrocities committed against Soviet prisoners of war
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Also we can move the the article for better organization.
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Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history
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What do I need to do to get the title of the table here
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Knowledge (XXG):Reference desk/Humanities#Peace Day 1919
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that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.
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List of armed conflicts involving Poland against Turkey
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From the editors; awards and honours; contest results
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