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in India. Considering the issue in this regard, when i used to remove timings or list of train services on station pages, certain editors do the challenge the edit as wrongful attempt. But apart from the rule some editors understand even logically to remove such information but some despite repeated
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It may be considered that if enough attributable information exists about a station or railway line to write a full and comprehensive article about it, it may make sense for the subject to have its own article. If some source material is available, but is insufficient for a comprehensive article, it
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sufficient? Adding subject-specific guidelines tends to create drama that outweighs the benefits - especially if the subject-specific notability threshold is set lower, because it encourages rote creation of really low-quality pages. (They may well get a neat structure of templates and categories
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Consensus on Knowledge is that if enough attributable information is available about a station to verify that it exists, it generally is appropriate for the subject to have its own article. For proposed or planned stations, historic railways stations that only existed briefly, or stations on
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that despite GNG, that "the only time verifiably real rail transport stations end as anything other than "keep" is when articles about a group of stations are merged and redirected to an article about the line or system they're on. For heavy rail stations on a main system (i.e. not a heritage
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above. It was changed in 2016 after there was no response on this talk page. It remains to this day the last edit on the page. This is clearly not a very well watched page. It is frequently claimed at AFD that there is consensus that existence of a railway station is enough to justify a
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the most, since almost every city/town has its own demand of introduction of new trains/buses or construction of new lines, these are either speculative and unconfirmed. Those demands may or may not happen or even keep lingering for a indefinite period of time. Hence a concrete
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As like for railway stations in UK and Poland, is there any naming convention exist for railway stations in India? One common guideline followed was "XXXXX railway station", i.e., Name of the railway station suffixed by "railway station" in lower caps. What about
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Distinguish between stating, for example, that a station is served by a certain number of trains per hour, and specifying the times of those trains. The former is information about the significance of the station; the latter is timetable information.
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is better to mention the subject under the article for its parent locality or parent company. If no source material, or only directory-type information (location, function, name, address) can be provided, the subject may not merit mention at all.
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difference of opinion erupts between article creators of primary/major contributor of the article, as there exist no specific guideline(s) on relevant project page. How should they be named? If any guideline framed it'll helpful.
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explanations that, if they reinstate such things will lead to other registered or unregistered (IP) user to add more on that. For which, editors cite that mentioning number of trains is not at all an issue per
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It may be considered that if enough attributable information is available about a station on a main system to verify that it exists, it generally is appropriate for the subject to have its own article.
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lines, if insufficient source material is available for a comprehensive article, it is better to mention the station in an article about the line or system that the station is on.
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and continue to add such things despite requests and suggestions by giving it high priority than adding other key info of the station. The incidence of such issue is more in
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Hi all. It may have not been observed here, however an RFC on this essay was recently closed by myself. The discussion, and outcome of that discussion can be found at
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railway) the latter almost always happens only if the stations are simply proposed/planned, or existed only briefly many years ago." Therefore, should we replace:
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of such pages. Articles on junction stations in India either has "XXXXX railway station" or "XXXXX Junction railway station"? In such cases, while editing or
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But if the issue features in a town or city related article with resources it may not be a problem, what if its presence in station articles? It seems like
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are two irrelevant bits. Just because they are available doesn't mean that they should be included. I suggest that guidance be added to the essay.
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has a much larger audience, and is probably a better venue for the topic as well. Such threads have been raised there in the past. --
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National railway station databases often include information that is not of interest or useful to a WP reader. I suggest that
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pages rather than it allows number of train serving the station. As far as the Indian scenario is considered, the network of
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pages as it handles more trains. Hence an appropriate changes shall be made effectively at earliest in the best interest. --
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Quite apart from the GNG problem, this essay really ought to be brought in line with the results of the RfC a while ago.
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I've updated one sentence (actually reverted to a previous version) to make it more in line with the close.
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can be made on adding/removal of such informations in future, else such actions may result in
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is a direct link to that interesting archived RfC about the notability of train stations. --
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Why is it read as: a station is always notable? De normal appropriate rule here is
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which by far assumably discourages the use of timings of train services in
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it was forced to change its numbering system from 4-digits to 5-digits
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and ended without a clear consensus, which resulted in existence of
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to establish whether or not there actually is such a consensus.
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List of trains with/without timings in Indian station pages
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for stations. However, it was made pretty clear to me
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