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OK, FFF. I'm not going to argue about this. I thought my follow-up statement after the 'vote' was pretty clear: "Additional input from an involved editor (also the OP)." Hopefully, the XRV closer is a human being who understands the subtlety of the
English language. (Don't outsource this job to
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California was a legal constituent territory of the Empire of Japan. I'd gladly retract my objections if they did.
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Thanks, and by the way, FFF, you have had prior interactions with both me and the editor in question. May I ask why you haven't 'voted' or said anything? (Of course, feel free to ignore this inquiry ;) )
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Thanks Lev, I missed to read part below the boxed text - it is a touchy subject for me to seek a review on actions of admin so I was/I am a bit nervous. Thanks, I appreciate it really.
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farming organization established in 2011 to assist farmers affected by natural disasters. They do not run the
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