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remarkable answer that it was neither concern over the sanctity of human life nor
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The members of the government . . . possessed secret channels of information of what these classes contemplated. . . f conscription was adopted, the extremists would by acts of violence and sabotage upset the whole social and industrial life of
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I hope this isn't out of place to ask here, but I would be incredibly interested in anything you can dig up out of the library's more obscure resources about the 1916 Labor split over conscription.
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Is this still something you're interested in pursuing? I'm on-site for the next couple of months one day a week, and I'm happy to go dig for you if you're interested in expanding on this point.
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