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weird around the edges and they're not political, so I'm wondering if pulling out one or two countries would be better (also open to say, political groupings like the EU). For Media and Music, those do some broad categories that could be split, assuming there are no very half-half director actors or similar. Lee Vilenski's split on Association football seems sound, might have to take a closer look at stadiums. On the broad question of numbers, I generally look at it with an eye for somewhere between 20/25 (where it forms a clear paragraph-length chunk that shows it is a topic with clear work) and around 200 (where, depending on the length of individual entries, the block starts to get longer than laptop screen lengths).
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whether the reviewers broadly agree, disagree, or cover separate ground altogether are all factors that determine this. When there is a fairly large number of relatively lengthy reviews that all largely agree on the main points, summarizing by theme is likely to be the best approach. Conversely, a low number of relatively brief reviews that focus on different aspects may be better summarized separately in the body (though the much briefer summary in the
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most of the source review, and just started on the prose review. I've found a lot of issues with prose as well but I'm not sure if that is just me being overly nitpicky. I'm also a little bit unsure of how to feel about the amount of technical information there is in the article. I don't know if this is the standard amount of technical info in a military article or if it needs to be toned down a bit here.
846:(ec) The EU doesn't include Switzerland, Norway, the UK, and some Balkan and eastern European countries, though that list will probably change over the next few years. I think geographical categories make more sense than political ones, as they are more stable. No strong opinion on UK/Ireland vs. continental Europe or Western vs. Eastern Europe, but I suspect the former is going to be easier to manage. 95: 141: 1876:
and I’m really glad the coordinator suggested I got more experience first as I did need it. My proposal would be requiring people who are entering the GARC to have reviewed at least 5 GAs beforehand. 5 is kind of a random number so if anyone has other suggestions please let me know but I do feel implementing some form of restrictions may help with the future of GARCs.
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perhaps alert the IP of this if you do so. On technical information, it is best if the article is as accessible as possible, but it is not a problem for the GACR if some parts remain technical so long as it is relevant, and it's not that long an article. Perhaps look to make sure the lead is not technical.
2325:. I am not very familiar with FL, but looking at it, I think the same issues we have been discussing here will prevent it from passing. Please gain some more experience with Knowledge (XXG) and improve your writing skills before you review or nominate articles at FAC/FLC/GAN. I can see you are active in 2907:
opened the review at 17:15, and passed the article at 17:33, leaving not a single comment as to what was checked and what was found. If we accept a simple "passed" without any commentary, especially in a quick pass after less than a third of an hour to read and digest and check a substantial article,
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I have in fact witnessed IPs not only nominate articles, but get them through the process successfully. It's very rare but I see no reason we should forbid it so long as we allow IP editing. IPs may change frequently but for most people they will consistently locate to the same area which makes it at
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I agree that the process currently compromises on review quality. Still, we need more people reviewing, and this is a good incentive to try a first review. If they've got a mentor who will ensure a standard of quality, as an exception to the requirements, then I don't see why they should be excluded.
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If someone created an article on something Turkey (nation) related and it's placed in either Europe or Asia, the article will be reviewed swiftly either way. On the other hand, as someone *not* interested in English/Irish/Isle related articles, I would be happy to more easily find the other articles.
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On reflection, I'm not sure my concern about EU being more clear-cut is relevant anyway, since GAN doesn't really end up having acrimonious disputes about which categories ought to exist and what ought to be in them, at least not as far as I've seen. I do still prefer "British Isles" vs "Continental
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however in the future if you are on the fence about failing something vs putting it on hold so improvements can be made i usually look at the nominators activity and history. if the nominator is very active, replies to your reviews and such then i’d lean more towards putting an article on hold. but
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I don't see any problems with the review, the nominator seems responsive to your questions and suggestions. If the sources are out of place you could mention that, it is easy enough to duplicate them if needed. If you're feeling overly nitpicky, you can make minor spelling/grammar changes yourself,
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a couple weeks ago and I honestly just need a fresh set of eyes here. So far my review has been a lot of back and forth between me and the nominator. My biggest concern here is that some of the citations aren't placed by the information they support which makes source reviweing very hard. I've done
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To TheNuggeteer, I want to say I really hope you don't take this badly; I'm only saying that I believe you need to learn more about the GAN/article-writing process first before taking on a role like this. I also think for the benefit of GARC, proposed coordinators should have greater scrutiny (with
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It seems like editors did not want to split along Eastern/Western Europe and instead split out the countries of Britain, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Ireland, and smaller surrounding islands into their own category. What name should this category use? Some suggestions included: "Great Britain
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After skimming through the list, I think an "other celebrities" category would be quite small. I think the least amount of overlap is to split off director from the others above, and then place biographies in the category that the person is most known for. If there is doubt, we can discuss it here.
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Ah, my read is that we were only talking about geographical splits of "European history" not "historical figures". Given the disparities in coverage of global figures, going by date is probably easier to manage without further splits. Whether that's the most important criterion, I don't know that I
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There was no objection to splitting "Road infrastructure: Midwestern United States" and "Performers, groups, composers, and other music-related people" in the way proposed above. I think this split can happen, and any help would be appreciated to make this split. If someone objects to splitting the
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In some GANs (looking at books, in particular), the Reception sections are written with dedicated paragraphs summarizing each reviewer in isolation, often with heavy quoting, and little to no attempt to connect themes with other reviews. Sometimes this is by necessity, say, if there are only three
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I agree with that. I think any combination of five successful GANs and GA reviews (that were not quickfails; e.g. 2 successful nominations and 3 well-done reviews) is a reasonable standard to participate, so long as there aren't any other pressing issues. Imo coordinators should also scrutinize at
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I wouldn’t have an issue with this either however I do think they should demonstrate they know how to do a review which I don’t know how else that could be demonstrated unless they’ve done a review in the past. We could also say either reviewed or nominated 5 GAs that way people who haven’t done a
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This may not be the best place to put this but since I was tagged here and it’s somewhat related to the topic I think it may be a good idea to put some restrictions in place at GARC to avoid newer editors from getting overwhelmed. When I first applied to be apart of the GARC I had only done 3 GARs
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I agree that "British Isles" by itself is a problematic name, especially to the Irish community. Some options could be "British Isles: England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland" or "England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland". EU is not a great idea
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I agree that this needs more attention, and I consider an unorganized assortment of opinions and quotes to fail the GA criteria. The majority of the time when reviewing an article about some piece of media, I have to ask the nominator to fix the reception section because it's a list of quotes. In
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The best way to summarize the critical reception will vary from case to case. There are several dimensions to this. The number of reviews, the length of each individual review, the relative prominence of each reviewer in the relevant field, the type of work (e.g. fiction versus non-fiction), and
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I agree that quotes should be used sparingly in reception sections and overuse of quotes in a reception section should be considered both an issue of copyright and poor prose. Even if there are few quotes, reception sections should also be somewhat organized or they risk not being clear (e.g. by
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should step down from being a coordinator for the time being (at least until he is able to demonstrate better understanding of the GAN process). I think there is a lot of evidence to suggest he needs additional experience with Knowledge (XXG) and the GAN process to become a coordinator for GARC.
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We've had some discussion on how to split historical/royal biographies and events before, but haven't found something that's convenient. Proposed split of Midwestern United States sounds practical and within current practice. For the proposed split of political figures, continental divisions get
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Summarizing a review that the reader is not able to access is helpful. It may not be the optimal approach, but it provides information they did not have and could not get on their own. There are of course better and worse ways of summarizing individual reviews, where a high reliance on verbatim
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In the case of too-few-reviews, I don't think summarizing each review in depth offers any actual illumination for the reader. In an example with three reviews, summarized in depth and relying on quotes, it reads like book back cover blurbs (advertisements) or a review aggregator. I wouldn't say
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If a sub-heading was used under European history, the font would not be smaller than the headings we currently use, as the GA headings are already the smallest allowed. Also, I think it would be the only categories in GA with sub-categories. I would prefer "European history: United Kingdom and
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narrower scope than "European political figures": for example, the former would arguably only include British political figures who were active between 1973 and 2020, whereas the latter would presumably include any British political figures ever. I can think of edge-cases for both options (are
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Consensus seemed to be to put stadiums into "Association football events, matches, and concepts". There are still some stadiums listed in "Stadiums, public parks, and amusements". Should the status quo remain, where articles are listed in two different places, or should the stadiums be listed
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In terms of my approach to GARC, I think to make them work at increasing the number of reviews, they should be frequent. I don't think newer reviewers should be excluded, as long as they are mentored in some way, i e. with a second pair of eyes looking over the review, which helps them with
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Although it's not common, there are people who don't write much content but still have a good grasp of how to evaluate the GA criteria and review an article. I would have no issue with someone putting their first ever GAN up at GARC if they're already proven themselves a capable reviewer.
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The goal of these categories shouldn’t be to find perfect ontologies but to make sure more niche content doesn’t get drowned among the most popular candidates. I frequently check Business Economics, and Society related categories since my topics of interest frequently fit both. ~ 🦝
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because the countries in the EU are constantly changing, while the borders of Europe are pretty static. Also, EU politicians in the news are often still identified from the country they are from, and involved in that country's politics before, during and after being part of the EU.
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I don't know where people get the idea that only passing reviews is worthwhile from. A successful review is a complete review—pass or fail, both help to improve the encyclopedia. It is not necessary to seek "community consensus" to do a basic element of the GA process.
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exist to some extent in tension with each other and we have to exercise judgment in finding an appropriate compromise approach that does not go too far in one direction or the other. Reasonable people can disagree about the best course of action in any particular case.
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While going through the list of good articles, I noticed that there were some categories that are quite large. As more articles get promoted, some of these categories might benefit by being split up. This will help readers navigate these pages to find good articles.
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I think we should give them a chance to respond, it doesn't have to be immediately delisted. The 40/50 people who view the page a day probably aren't going to have their experience changed much, and the article is certainly good given the nominator is Chiswick Chap.
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After reading the above, I think there are some areas of consensus and some areas where additional comments might be helpful. I have split the discussions into level 3 headings for organisation purposes. Comments on all the discussions would be appreciated.
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Would editors be OK with initiating these splits? Should these names be used, or other ones? Should 300 be the target number in each category, or should another maximum number be used? Are the suggested divisions the best places to split these categories?
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imo, European history being separated into "British Isles" and "Continental Europe" will probably be easier than Eastern/Western. The borders of what is east and west are arguable. Whether something is in the British Isles or not is more clear-cut. --
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might still be best presented thematically). I have used both approaches in different articles based on what seemed the most fitting to me in each case. We must remember that summarizing different reviewers' viewpoints collectively can also result in
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The main reason is that there is quite a bit of overlap between the seasons and events. These tend to be about the matches that the teams have had. Teams and stadium articles are much more higher level concepts and would fit neatly into one section.
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Plenty of GA categories with sub-categories, off the top of my head the biggest offender is Biology. Using an explicit "other" category can work, although it does slightly complicate the simple hierarchical structure that can aid machine analysis.
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I would like to comment on TheNuggeteer's reviews later, but in the meantime, would I be able to take over the coordinator position? I don't think I'm an exceptional reviewer by any means and don't have any GAs, but I have done a fair amount of
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regardless of which category they're put in (i'd probably prefer putting them in with parks &c. but if there was consensus for putting them in with football articles then so be it), it should be consistent and they should all be together.
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What is our general working expectation for GANs? Is it sufficient for GAN breadth and writing quality to plop summaries of each review without connection, or are editors expected to connect the reviews for a general audience when available?
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For various categories, there was discussion on how Europe should be defined for the interest of categories. What countries should be included in a "Europe" category? Should a list of EU countries be used instead? For categories where the
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Directed by VĂŠras Fawaz, a personal friend of Klein, the music video for "Europapa" was premiered live on De Avondshow met Arjen Lubach at 16:45 CET, followed by a release on the Eurovision Song Contest channel on YouTube ten minutes
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advising him that he would need additional experience reviewing articles before participating in the GARC process. However, TheNuggeteer's GA review circles have included editors with dramatically less experience, which you can see
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I would also be happy with this however I do agree that coordinators having to look over others reviews may add to the workload. I think it’s fair to just look over the users talk page to see if any concerns have been brought up.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with considering splits at 200, if there is a logical division available, but perhaps we could make 300 the hard line. (Maybe the bot could be made to auto-post here to remind us to split?)
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While the higher the number of articles the more a split becomes a good idea, I think we should consider as low as 200 if there are logical categories we can create. That would have to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
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I have completed the split for the music articles. There will probably need to be another discussion to split the biographies, but I think that should be initiated once the concerns below have been resolved and acted upon.
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least one of these to make sure they're good, but I also don't want to force volunteers to do more work if it's just going to create a backlog (it looks to me that both coordinators aren't as active as they used to be). ~
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Oh indeed. I have no particular love for "British Isles" as the name of the category; my intent was simply to suggest that the continental divide is probably an easier and more relevant one to use than eastern/western. --
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Way out of line. Surely there are better ways to motivate them to contribute more positively. This is clearly an enthusiastic editor doing their best to improve Knowledge (XXG), and these comments just turn editors away.
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Some biographies have overlap between the proposed split to "Actors, models, performers, and celebrities" and "Directors". Should this split continue like this, or should this be split another way (or not split at all)?
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There's certainly a grey area as to where the line is drawn between "Political figures" and "Historical figures: politicians", but for what it's worth I see a few nineteenth century figures in the former category (e.g.
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that's any greater breadth of prose or good writing than a single sentence for each. I haven't seen an example (including my own older GAs on books) in which a paragraph for each reviewer is a helpful review approach.
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is a good program for mentoring new users. I think the process currently compromises on review quality, which is something that this project was setup to try and avoid. Adding requirements should hopefully solve this.
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by making stronger or broader claims than is justified by the overall contents of all relevant sources. For this reason, I favour a comparatively conservative approach to doing so. This is an area where our different
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Of course! Just as the others accept, I honestly don't want to be a coord anymore (hope the other coords don't take it badly). You have multitudes of experience reviewing GAN's, so you seem like a good candidate.
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I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I'd be in favor of dividing up the general rail transport category (213 articles). I think we could add categories for rail accidents and incidents plus rapid transit.
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Creating a GAN is all talkpage editing, so there isn't a technical mechanism to prevent IP nominations. As for the specific article, it was mostly written by an IP, so it might be the same individual.
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As coordinator, his circles have also had significantly less scrutiny than the ones organized by other coordinators. To provide one example of contrast, one coordinator previously left a message on @
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It should be fixed now, I think, but I'm not 100% sure. I thought it might have been related to a mistake I'd made on the talk page, so I tried blanking it and then restoring the content correctly.
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Agree with both Vacant0 and CMD that "EU" is a better term than "Europe". Again, seems more clear cut. Unless someone can come up with some hypothetical edge cases that seem messier that way? --
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quote-plopping, but I see enough people saying things like "any suitably sourced and reasonably complete article can be a GA" that I wonder if requiring "weaving" is overly ambitious for GA. --
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had been opened for review and passed very quickly, which is unusual given that source checking is required these days and it takes time to read an entire article and check it for all the
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I looked into this and apperantly unregistered users can nominate articles for GAs. I also was not aware that drive by noms were a thing/aren't allowed until after I started my review.
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Id probably change the split to Association football teams, events, and concepts: (Association football teams and stadiums) (Association football seasons, events, matches, and concepts)
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They have not shown anywhere whether the article actually meets the six GA criteria. If the reviewer does not respond, the article should be delisted and put up for a review again.
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Based on my reading of the discussion above, I think editors are more favourable to splitting "Historical figures: other" by geographic location, not time period. Is this accurate?
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Listed below are my suggestions for splitting some categories. The goal was for each categories to have under 300 articles, an arbitrary number I picked because most categories at
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which should probably be deleted. I don't think they have picked up any reviews since this was brought up here so I'm unsure if there remains an issue of needing to slow down.
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On splitting Europe, there isn't a need to label the rest of Europe something else. We can put the British Isles (and other future splits) as a subheader of the Europe header.
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Now passed again with an empty review form with a whole 191 characters of brief questions for the nominator (including the comment delimeters) left as hidden comments in
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A geographical option is "Great Britain and Ireland"; "United Kingdom and Eire" could work as well, with "Continental Europe" probably the simplest option for the rest.
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Bumping this, which still needs to be addressed. It's been said above that TheNuggeteer probably needs to hold off on reviewing for a while and take GAN more slowly.
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Agree, I think it's weird to put them in with sports and not public places, but I don't edit this kind of article so feel free to disregard my opinion on this. --
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quotes tends towards the worse and writing about the overarching ideas in one's own words tends towards the better. The underlying problem is that we rarely have
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I don't like saying this, but I don't think the editor should be reviewing GAs, and I have doubts about at least one of their articles that were promoted to GA.
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But anyway, I don't feel like those quickfailed noms are recent (for me), and after, I have eight other successful reviews and 2 GAs, so I probably don't know.
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are separated from other European nations, what should the other European countries be referred to: Continental Europe, Mainland Europe, or something else?
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reviewers and there is little connection to the other reviews. But most often there are plenty of reviews and opportunities to engage with the guidance in
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If using Èire, make sure to write it as I have. Also, I recommend not using the term 'British Isles': Great Britain and Ireland will offend no one
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I wasn't aware that we allow GA nominations from unregistered users. How can their contributions be measured to ensure they're not 'drive by?
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I think I have to agree. I have seen a marked improvement in their quality of reviews, but I did spend some time co-reviewing a few articles
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Great Britain and Ireland is probably the most neutral (as opposed to "British Isles") and more COMMONNAME-y than "United Kingdom and Éire".
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based off a quick look at the article it seems like there are several unsourced portions which means that it would qualify as a quick fail.
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In the above, I proposed splits for categories over 300 articles. Another editor suggested 200. What is the ideal number in each category?
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I'd support the Historical figures and Political figures splits and would prefer both of them to be grouped by location (NA, Eu, Other).
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as fail, I don't know what to do. Since reviewing, I have found multiple issues, and I don't know if I have to close this as a fail.
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to understand the holistic reception. The latter, to me, is the minimum quality bar for the "well-written" (1a) and "breadth" (3a)
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Precisely the confusion I intended to avoid by suggesting "EU" instead. But if we simply accept that placing a relevant article in
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I might go through the list and make sure people are in the correct spots. If the split happens, I can do this at the same time.
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The line per the existing hidden notes is BLP, living people go into Political figures, dead people go into Historical figures.
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I've said that it should be delisted if they do not respond. The reviewer clearly responded now, so it should not be delisted.
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this case, I usually consider it a criterion 2 failure in relation to copyright and failing to properly paraphrase the source.
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I like TheNuggeteer, and honestly think they've done good work with GACR, but I don't think they're able to evaluate 1a of the
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My bad, I did not mean the European Union, but instead Europe as a whole. This would mean including countries from this list:
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if a nominator isn’t super active, has a history of not being receptive to criticism etc. then i’d lean more towards fail.
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I think that after "a personal friend of Klein", the comma should be a dot instead, and the next word will be capitalized.
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I’m willing to review the TNF article as it’s in my scope of interest. What’s the protocol for taking over a review?
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that have their own categories, even with only one entry, while multiple episodes of a series will be listed in
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concerns with a specific review, please consider discussing things with the reviewer first before posting here.
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academic/non-academic reviewers, by views on certain aspects of the book, or by positive/negative reviewers) ~
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too many times today now, but I'll do so as a courtesy since GARC is also something you've primarily organized.
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is definitely not true. The concept of Europe has historically crept east, as it continues to do today.
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i have to second this - please don't rush into things, and please listen to other editors' feedback.
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What's "actors, models, performers, directors" and "other celebrities" look like? Useful, or? --
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Hi there, I don't want to come off as discourteous, but I have concerns that make me believe @
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I don't have a strong opinion on which is better, but "EU political figures" is potentially a
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Your more recent nominations don't inspire much confidence in me either. Your nomination of
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category is fine, I think we can just choose not to have the problem in the first place. --
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nomination is malformed -- Status indicates review has started but there is no review page
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discussions and keep related topics together, several other GA talk pages redirect here.
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Hmm, seems like a good option, since I could actually use more time to make more GA's.
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The Oxford Guide to the Book of Common Prayer: A Worldwide Survey#Critical reception
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Ireland" and "European history: other" over using subheadings for European history.
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Turkish and/or Russian politicians European political figures vs. is someone like
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review but have nominated enough GAs to show they understand could participate.
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I've rollbacked everything, so you should be able to continue your review now.
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Many of his recent GANs have had significant concerns brought up by editors:
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clear minimum requirements) in the future, before being added. ~
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Yup, I did that by accident, very sorry! Any way I can undo it?
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comment above before continuing to nominate or review articles?
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about what the reviews say, but have to rely on the reviews as
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I can leave comments on these to finish these reviews, except
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I agree that 'Great Britain and Ireland' is the most neutral
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understanding what they should be looking for in a review.
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together? If listed together, where should they be listed?
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I think requiring experience in GARC is for the best.
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