3372:"Tom's words laid bare the hearts of trees and their thoughts, which were often dark and strange, and filled with hatred of things that go free upon the earth, gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning: destroyers and usurpers. ... the fathers of the trees, remembering times when they were lords. The countless years had filled them with pride and rooted wisdom, and with malice. But none were more dangerous than the Great Willow: his heart was rotten, but his strength was green; and he was cunning, and a master of winds, and his song and thought ran through the woods on both sides of the river. His grey thirsty spirit drew power out of the earth and spread like fine root-threads in the ground, and invisible twig-fingers in the air, till it had under its dominion nearly all the trees of the Forest from the hedge to the Downs." (Rotk, hb ver, p. 141)
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request was never made known to us. I am writing you to obtain permission once and for all, to avoid any further snags. We put your images under "fair use", but it seems they don't strictly qualify because, among other reasons, there's always a chance someone will just make his or her own images about the topics we're using yours for and release them into the public domain (see
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I am not certain I'm in the right place, please direct me if my interjection here is not procedurally correct. The article on "Old Man Willow" may require emendation where it lists "race" as "uncertain, possibly Huorn." The salient quote in FotR leaves the matter of OMW's origin somewhat vague when
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Thanks for these edits, and thanks for mentioning them here. I agree that the image and infobox don't do much. The infobox had been redesigned to be less like a gaming card (eg. an attempt to focus on literary stuff, like naming the books the character appears in), but obviously it still appears to
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It is to that noble end that I make this request. However, for
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much like a gaming card. Some of the material removed could be sourced or used in other articles - I personally wouldn't trim as much as you have, but that is your editorial style. I will source anything I add back, but that is not likely to happen for a while.
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3560:. How should I reply to his e-mail (above?) "Thank you, but it appears we cannot host your art on our servers to prevent their inappropriate commercial use. We are going to link to your art instead. We are sorry for the inconvenience, and regret the error."
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Ted Nasmith's watermarked art really needs to be deleted. Speedily? I've already removed one image from
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I've been thinking; despite the fact that none of them are marked as such, most of the articles on the
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I've now remembered that this has been discussed before, though you've both added new points. See
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Whatever works. We could make all discussions from sub-talk pages (lie Standards) redirect there.
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I respectfully request your permission to use your Tolkien illustrations found at your website,
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Here too, though I tend to get distracted. Feel free to drop me talk page notices though : ) -
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Yes the images make the articles look nice, no they are not in general really neccessary eg
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Well, I noticed it both here and even earlier on Carcharoth's talk, but feel quite neutral.
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Inclusion of the image into the article adds significally to the understanding of the topic
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Present, with hopes to keep on merging and embark upon cleaning up images and screenshots.
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there are currently about 130 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with
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Though I'm not opposed to it, perhaps instead of a noticeboard, we could make more use of
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Happy to join... wrote on Cirith Ungol veeganmd@frontiernet.net 12:23, 23 February 2008
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Hi all. I wanted to give a heads up to all involved that someone has nominated the page
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Here sort of. It seems like a lot of people are tied up with school! (As in, me too.) --
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to a new location. I see the article currently has a template suggesting a merger with
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I e-mailed Ted Nasmith about his images here, and he replied(!) after around a year.
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Would anyone have any issues with the creation of a WP:M-E notice board? Compare to
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The image is being used in an informative way and should not detract from the film
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If anyone wants to pull out or copy a previous discussion, feel free to to do so.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Warg&diff=191872567&oldid=190437460
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Knowledge talk:Notability (fiction)#RfC: Proposing WP:FICT for global acceptance
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1 is irrelevent. 2 and 3 are true but not reason in themselves. 4 is not true
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Are many of the more notable articles as bloated as this one? I dare not look
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The image does not limit New Line Cinema's ability to sell or show the film
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at the Standards page about the points raised in Malachirality's comments.
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Middle-earth/archive10#More merging_discussion
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Thank you very much, and I hope you will consider accepting this request.
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Present but with masses to do on top of school work so not very active
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The image is used to demonstrate the film's distinctive graphical style
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Also corrected the lotr emphasis in the intro - he has his own book...
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works, or smaller (or even full) versions of non-watermarked works.
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This is a list of all the pages related to the project, to allow
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Sounds good. Have a go and leave a note here when you are done.
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Present and ready to do what I can for Knowledge Middle Earth.
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Request for comment on fictional characters guideline proposal
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If you have further questions, please leave a message on the
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Rationale for the fair use of this image in Book of Mazarbul:
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Possibly some are already aware of this (at least the author
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Present, but probably not very active because of schoolwork.
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Middle-earth/archive11#Retagging?
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Film/cartoon images are necessary to illustrate and discuss
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#Merging guidelines
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made some tidying edits to it, also moved some content to
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Possibly he was trying to nominate one of the articles at
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I've left an initial reply on B. Wolterding's talk page.
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Present, an elf, but has been in a hobbit habbit lately.
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Thanks for the heads up! The AfD closed with the result
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All right. I just did a bunch of add-ins to the article
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Another possibility would be to merge Hadhafang into
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In a hole in the ground lived... Grigory Deepdelver!
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Second Wizarding War
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The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (film)
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Middle-earth-related articles of unclear notability
1831:Noting the categories and their discussions above.
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4118:. So I'm requesting help in moving Middle-earth's
3753:and an image of Viggo Mortensen was involved. See
2923:http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:NasmithWitchKing.JPG
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4011:In particular, see my comment in December 2007 (
3902:into an article of larger scope, or possibly be
2640:. A peer and GA review at the same time, huh...
2484:so feel free to edit/revert anything I've done.
4188:The hobbit refs and info need help with article
3324:Knowledge:WikiProject Middle-earth/things to do
2914:http://wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy
2822:http://wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GFDL
2663:, and archived OctoberâDecember discussions to
2109:Rangers of the North#Chieftains of the DĂșnedain
1556:Not very active either, but will do my best :)
4001:Category:WikiProject Middle-earth to be merged
2948:http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Introduction
2899:(we didn't have to get your permission there).
2879:http://en.wikipedia.org/Battle_of_the_Morannon
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1239:) 09:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC) On hiatus. :-(
3622:On adding links to nasmisth's and others work
2387:? The ones with actually long articles (like
1514:Hello. Is this like a register or something?
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2921:As of now, one of your images I uploaded at
2859:http://en.wikipedia.org/Witch-king_of_Angmar
2830:http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Copyrights
1598:Strike out expired proposals with <s: -->
4219:(viz, for example, most of the articles in
2796:My original e-mail (edited for anonymity):
1606:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Middle-earth/AfD
1600:and note result, moving deleted ones under
74:Tolkien articles by quality and importance
3898:can be added, whether the articles can be
2985:(Tom Loback) released his under the GFDL.
2354:The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game
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3180:Knowledge:WikiProject Comics/Notice board
4015:) about the overall number of articles:
2897:http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Silmarillion
1472:I'm back, I'm back in the saddle again.
1443:Present, I'll try to help when I can. --
1285:Per everyone that's mentioned school. --
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4238:Fortunately those are mostly redirects.
4130:. Of course, it could also be moved to
2910:http://wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Fair_Use
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18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Middle-earth
4006:User:Carcharoth/Notes#Merges performed
2191:is a separate peer reviewed process);
60:Tolkien articles by quality statistics
44:Do not edit the contents of this page.
1918:Please ensure these are all added to
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2884:http://en.wikipedia.org/Minas_Tirith
2869:http://en.wikipedia.org/Durin's_Bane
2271:Adaptations of The Lord of the Rings
1823:Category:Middle-earth food and drink
1604:below. Please also add the links to
1429:I'm there, toiling in Middle Earth!
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4106:Hi Middle-earth folks, the article
3658:Knowledge:Non-free_content#Images_2
3545:Another approach to the art problem
2944:http://en.wikipedia.org/Ted_Nasmith
2024:The last five are stubs created by
1799:Category:Chieftains of the DĂșnedain
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2958:His reply (edited for anonymity):
2334:The Lord of the Rings film trilogy
2197:Category:GA-Class Tolkien articles
2185:Category:FA-Class Tolkien articles
2166:(the latter being a new one) into
2103:Kings of Arnor#High Kings of Arnor
1965:(12:55, 1 February 2008 Dbachmann)
1959:(13:11, 1 February 2008 Dbachmann)
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4288:WikiProject Middle-earth subpages
3661:Knowledge:Non-free_content#Images
3590:for the template used. Neat, eh?
3005:Knowledge:Non-free content#Images
2263:The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)
2205:Category:B-Class Tolkien articles
2193:Category:A-Class Tolkien articles
1115:User: Jordan Timothy James Busson
3908:Knowledge:WikiProject Notability
3029:Art inspired by J. R. R. Tolkien
1975:Bibliography of J. R. R. Tolkien
1971:(15:09, 5 January 2008 Ashleyvh)
1969:Category:Tolkien Society members
1883:Tolkien fandom#Tolkien societies
1768:Knowledge:Categorizing redirects
1249:Here, but free time is limited.
926:(23 Aug., 2006 â 29 Sept., 2006)
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2937:http://wikimediafoundation.org/
1993:The Lord of the Rings: Conquest
1791:Category:Middle-earth materials
1065:New to this community, Karo6.
962:(22 Oct., 2007 â 31 Dec., 2007)
956:(24 July, 2007 â 21 Oct., 2007)
950:(25 Apr., 2007 â 23 July, 2007)
944:(22 Feb., 2007 â 24 Apr., 2007)
932:(30 Sept., 2006 â 7 Dec., 2006)
902:(25 Nov., 2005 â 02 Apr., 2006)
3858:for initial response. Cheers.
2889:http://en.wikipedia.org/Tirion
2874:http://en.wikipedia.org/Sauron
2864:http://en.wikipedia.org/Balrog
1985:User:The dark lord trombonator
1931:Portal talk:Middle-earth/Pages
1381:Still here... just been busy!
1247:) 02:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
938:(8 Dec., 2006 â 21 Feb., 2007)
920:(1 July, 2006 â 17 Aug., 2006)
914:(15 May, 2006 â 30 June, 2006)
908:(05 Apr., 2006 â 15 May, 2006)
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4221:Category:Middle-earth Dwarves
4083:Battle of the Pelennor Fields
4079:Category:Middle-earth objects
4075:Category:Middle-earth battles
3808:I started off adding refs to
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3767:06:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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2383:article or create an article
2360:plus two GAs listed under (A)
2168:Reception of J. R. R. Tolkien
2164:Deutsche Tolkien Gesellschaft
2152:The Tolkien Society of Sweden
1963:Category:Reception of Tolkien
1926:related changes for that page
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1875:22:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
1734:17:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
1700:23:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
1391:05:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
1259:09:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
3779:are my edits to warg ok? eg
3521:Commons:Commons talk:Fan art
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3121:12:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
3098:02:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
3068:06:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
3041:15:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
3016:02:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
2775:23:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
2757:22:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
2732:21:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
2698:14:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
2301:List of Middle-earth weapons
2116:â these four by Carcharoth.
1783:Category:Middle-earth horses
1411:Present per FlamingSilmaril
1359:18:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
1344:21:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
1328:06:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
1295:03:58, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
1281:02:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
1268:11:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
1226:16:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
1042:Please sign your name below
4223:). Feel free to comment.
3365:______________ From Karo6:
3149:J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia
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2650:17:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
2594:20:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
2576:19:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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2089:These can be tracked using
1620:List of Middle-earth rivers
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3954:The relevant bits from my
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3935:12:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
3868:20:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
3850:20:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
3675:Image:Book of Mazarbul.jpg
3499:image and put it up here.
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3319:I removed those two bits.
2842:http://creativecommons.org
2617:20:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
2207:, but if any of those are
1989:Some more found recently:
1983:- created 5 April 2007 by
1933:. Please also ensure that
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1775:Category:Middle-earth Orcs
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1524:18:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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1038:Roll call: January â March
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3925:page however.) Thanks! --
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3153:Category:J. R. R. Tolkien
3088:Keep up the editing! :-)
2814:http://www.tednasmith.com
2805:http://www.wikipedia.org/
2217:12:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
2078:17:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
1920:Portal:Middle-earth/Pages
1912:Articles newly made/found
1881:Recreated as redirect to
1664:18:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
1643:23:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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1099:Lacho calad! Drego morn!
1048:. Comments are optional.
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3652:On the subject of images
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3054:comes to mind and maybe
2763:Gandalf (disambiguation)
2160:Kontu Internet Community
1998:Turambar and the Foalókë
1722:Template:History of Arda
1582:07:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
1566:23:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
1061:23:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
4061:What needs to be merged
3915:Notability project page
3550:Template:Externalimages
3517:Commons:Commons:Fan art
3137:Rockall Bank and Trough
2482:don't want to be hasty,
2105:and #Kings of Arthedain
2042:12:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
1885:, hope it's not wrong.
1841:07:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
1761:Categories for deletion
1755:08:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
1678:12:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
4128:Cirith Forn en Andrath
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4033:. The current update (
3746:different incarnations
2238:FA, A, and GA articles
1807:Category:Kings of Dale
1712:Templates for deletion
1707:Redirects for deletion
1272:Per FlamingSilmaril. â
4241:When in doubt, merge.
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3919:my personal talk page
3628:Court of the Fountain
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954:Archive 10
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4198:LOTRrules
4136:High Pass
4120:High Pass
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3880:Hello,
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