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of who I think it is, I just really don't want to look. Having said that - while my opinion, like yours, is it's an article about complete fluff and nothing, I'm uncomfortable making value judgements about importance (as distinct from accuracy). Where do we draw the line? Would we delete the article about Charlotte Dawson? Princess Diana? Ms Shaw may not have actually done anything but she has certainly developed a, um, profile at Auckland University. (Frightening thought - the potential of something like Knowledge is that one day we may all have little articles about us in here).
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this article is referring to civil unions/same sex unions vs marriages/opposite sex unions. If it's referring to general discriminations against homosexuals vs heterosexuals in NZ legislation this needs to be clarified. I don't personally know of any, e.g. I don't think we have arguably discrimitory age of consent laws ala Australia. But I don't know much about gay rights... The only thing I can think of is perhaps the author was referring to the fact that marriages between same sex couples is still not allowed. Whatever the case, it needs to be clarified or removed.
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italic form within the article. A further point worth considering is that the majority of users of the English language Knowledge will not be aware of the use of the macron, and won't have a clue how to go about typing a macron when searching for an article. For the ease of use of Knowledge, the un-macronned form is a good thing (with posibly redirects from the macronned versions).
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My idea was not quite what Ben indicates above. He proposes that terms referring to Māori topics should use macrons, while I suggested that entire articles referring to Māori topics should use macrons (i.e. these articles should be written in en-NZ-macron, to use Ben's notation). My thinking was that
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Personally, I would not support the universal use of macrons. While macrons may be correct in Maori, they're not correct in English, and that's what we're meant to be using. When I say, for example, "katipo", I do not actually see myself as speaking Maori — I'm just using an English word derived from
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Two things, first of all must remember to log on - I notice someone using the same number as the one I get automatically given has been into the Liz Shaw NZ page and added something called "everyone loves some porn". No I dunno, I didn't want to open it on a uni computer. Actually, if it is a photo
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Welcome Ziggurat. As you can see this project is just getting off the ground. Feel very free to work on whatever fancies you. There is so much to do right now. If you spot articles that you think need work then please list them on the project page so others can find them. Also if you have time please
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Hi, I'm new to Knowledge and I'm keen to dedicate some of my miniscule amounts of free time to improving the NZ coverage here. My speciality is NZ linguistics and literature (if I can find the time I'd like to write articles on F. E. Maning, George Leitch, and other 19th century NZ authors), although
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So terms that refer to Māori topics (e.g. Māori, kōhanga reo, Ngāi Tahu) would have macrons, but terms that are about general topics (like flora, fauna and place names) would not have macrons. I'd still prefer to have macrons on all words from Māori, but I think this would be an okay compromise, and
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Well, after a month and a half strapped to the computer, I think I've got a fairly rationalised set of categories up and running for New Zealand geography now. Every article I've dealt with I've tried to give two categories to (minimum- some have required more). One of these two is a location (there
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The {{Trritorial Authorities of new Zealand}} template is looking increasingly like an arse-about-face category, dumping a lot of content into the article (more than the actual article itself in some cases) rather than centralising it. What do you think about doing away with it and replacing it with
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I think you make valid points, I was really just commenting on my personal usage, and that of a few of my colleagues working on native plants. I think everyone should be able to agree that the macron form (if applicable) should appear somewhere in the article. Although it seems these may largely be
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I noticed this in the gay rights in NZ article "The following year, the Relationships (Statutory References) Act, was passed to remove discriminatory provisions from most, but not all, legislation." Does anyone know what legislation did not have discriminatory provisions removed? I'm guessing that
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Knowledge, and in general English uses, words which are of Maori origin are not used with macrons. They do, of course, retain the macron when used within a Maori context. As such, it makes sense for us to use the non-macron forms in the titles of articles, but also to give the "true" Maori form in
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My two cents: I am a scientist (handing in my PhD thesis in about a week), and I have been struggling with this issue in my own work. I have eventually come to the conclusion that macrons should be used, as it is part of New Zealand English, and I consider the macron the "correct spelling". I just
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See the naming guidelines for New Zealand. The "irregular" ones are Epsom and Three Kings, and they are that way for a reason. They have a disambiguated name because there are other places of that name in the world. There is no other Mount Eden (or certainly no other one with a Knowledge article).
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Does Avenue's idea offer a good compromise? Clearly there are contemporary authoritative publications that are in the English language and use macrons, and there are those that don't. We could think of them as representing two kinds of New Zealand English: en-NZ-macron and en-NZ-nomacron. This is
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article seems to suggest most New Zealanders wouldn't consider Australia a part of Oceania. As a kiwi myself this seems rather odd to me, I would say most New Zealanders would consider both terms to refer to the same thing with the former a word used by Aussies and other 'idiots' who don't know
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The disadvantage of this plan is this will become an ongoing debate: there’s potential for this argument every time there’s a new Māori word in an article, or a new article with a Māori word in the title is created; *plus* when macronised spellings for various words become more common (‘Māori’
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Is the reason TV is commercial free on Christmas, Easter Sunday and Good Friday (and ANZAZ morning I guess although I wasn't even aware TV was commercial free then :-P ) due to the same trading restrictions that prevent stores opening on these days? If so, someone should add it to the
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She's very marginal as an entity worthy of an article here. I had just barely heard of her when the deletion debate came up (and I'm a semi-regular reader of Craccum). The deletion debate is over. You could renominate the article, but there's probably little point. Just ignore
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up slowly towards FA status (at least as regards the NZ portal, if not WP as a whole). I think I've got it to A-standard now, but if anyone can either add to the article or suggest improvements (either on the article's talk page or on my user talk page) it would be welcomed!
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Ben, I agree that our articles should reflect NZ English usage. However your position on what's "correct" seems arguable to me. I don't believe that all authoritative sources currently use macros exclusively, and I think we should aim to follow typical usage, not lead
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Just reading the Herald about Yuan Wang II tracking ship being in Auckland and was wondering if someone would be able to get a photo of it. The ships are used in tracking of the Chinese space program. I'm guessing this particular ship was between NZ and Tahiti for the
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which covers the legislation which is not affected under the subheading "What legislation does the Bill not amend?". This is sufficiently minor that I will remove the "most, but not all" from the Gay rights in New Zealand article unless someone wants to argue to the
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Where the article title or synonyms for it have been borrowed from Maori and where the original Maori has long vowels, the Maori form of the word should be given with macrons and in italics as part of the body of the article, usually near the top. For example, see
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The pages were created from a template (somewhat precipitously and coinciding with the one millionth article rush...) and need considerable cleanup to be in a presentable state (i.e. to not have blatant untruths in them). The years 1980 - 1989 are the current
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and that had to be put to rights lest we accidentally confer NZ's highest honour on a fictional character), and when I got back saw that we were going to meet in the middle. Props for noticing the absence of a category in the first place, too!
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so it seems like a mapping error. Perhaps the person involved wasn't a New Zealand who had outdated information of the existance of a Waitemata from pre-Waitakere City days and wasn't sure what to do with it so they just added it randomly :-P
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I could get a photo, most easily for me on Saturday morning, when I'm going to Waiheke. Can you find out where it's docked and for how long? If it will depart before then, or it isn't close to the ferry terminal, I could make a trip into town
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One disadvantage of my idea is that the spelling of Māori loanwords would not be consistent across articles. But one advantage is that any debate would be about particular articles, and this could be handled through discussions on their talk
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When an article is specifically about a Maori topic or group, I think we should not follow typical English usage as closely, but should defer more to the Maori spelling. For instance, we currently use macrons in articles such as
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In the archive someone argued that some words should not be written with macrons because they had been adopted more fully into English. The suggestion was that flora, fauna and placenames, where there was no English equivalent.
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article. I could add it but given that I don't know (although it seems very likely) someone needs to confirm it first and I might not check back here for a while so it'll be easier if someone who knows can add it if it's true
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So my conclusion is that the "correct" New Zealand English spelling for a large number of words borrowed from Māori is to use the macron. Since there are no technical hurdles in Knowledge, we should use the macron.
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Given that the missing pages section of the project page is now duplicated at Wikiportal New Zealand, is it time to remove it from this page? Or is it worth having it in both places, for the time being at least?
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Hi, umm, who is this Liz Shaw, i am a 39yr old born and bred Kiwi, never heard of her, never seen the ad on T.V., personally, I am in agreement with a deletion, but then that is just my Opinion. zZParagonZz
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with the three Giano architect featured articles, and mention of the New Zealand portal selected articles. If anyone knows of any other featured articles relating to New Zealand, or articles which meet the
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Feel very free to discuss here how you want this project to evolve and to update the main page . I've just done the initial bit on what I think we should cover. Other ideas amd opinions are very welcome.
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better... Maybe the article is supposed to say most Australians don't consider themselves part of Oceania which I personally also find unlikely but can't really speak with much authority own.
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cosmic rays maybe. Corrupt memory on your machine, could be anything. As long as it doesn't happen too often (like more than once in a 1000 edits) it's probably not worth worrying about.
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a like-named category? Categories are well established now and I think people will understand that if they follow the category link they will get links to all the sibling authorities.
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Use as a guideline recent Government publications that have been through a formal editing process (there are a lot of Government publications that use a macron when spelling the word
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I agree with Barefootguru that Ben's plan could potentially lead to fresh debate when new words get used, and I suspect this could be much harder to manage than my suggestion.
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I wrote that, but I don't recall exactly what I was thinking of at the time I wrote it. My references were inadequate for this sentence. I have found the following document:
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when an image was added, but didn't think to look here. I've now updated this page with the other requests from the portal page, and I'll try to keep them more in sync.-
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I hope I have not done too much violence to their positions by quoting them out of context. The usage in some of Nurg's example articles has since changed, e.g.
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marked in large bold text near the Auckland urban sprawl. But then it had the cities marked in smaller type. North Shore, Waitakere, Manukau.... and Waitemata.
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Te Papa is listed as needing an image, but there’s already a nice pic in the article (under creative commons). Is it just that this page hasn’t been updated?
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Same thing happens on mine every 100-200 edits or so. Always with the first few characters of whatever section I'm editing. Worth double-checking every time.
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I admit to not paying too much attention to the goings-on north of the Bombay Hills, but I'd have thought a name change this big would have caught my ear.
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Showing the Maori word in italics with macrons near the top is a good idea, and is similar to how we often treat words derived from other languages, e.g.
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I just did a search there to produce around 2700 names. How do people feel about listing all them on a page so we can work through them? Similar to how
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people reading and editing these articles would be more likely to care about macrons than someone reading an article about Whangamatā or the Tūī, say.
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the ship is scheduled to depart 27/10/2005 (which is today unfortunately) at 18:00. The Wharf given is "WYNYARD". Wish I'd seen the story sooner :-(.
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of NZ? It seems like a significant gap to me (one of many, of course!). Some good starting points could be the list of iwi on the Maori Knowledge (
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I am currently enjoying the (Its currently Good Friday) ad free TV/Radio, and shops been closed, & its nice to see a nice day for a change.
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Your analogy with diacritics in words from other languages cuts both ways. For example, we don't follow the French spelling of rôle and général.
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awarded, which isn 't a large number, but do others feel as I do that it deserves its own category? Anyone know how to create it? Cheers.
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the primary reason that Māori words have historically not been spelled with macrons is that it was technically difficult to render macrons
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I have moved the WikiProject according to the regular standard naming convention of most WikiProjects. Please excuse the interruption. --
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Why does it need disamb? There are no other Mount Eden's on Wiki. I'd say leave it as is until/unless another Mount Eden comes along.
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Since the New Zealand Wikipedian community is small I guess we should concentrate on major items or our individual specialty fields.
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Maori words that have not been adopted into English, and phrases of Maori, should have macrons and should be in italics (as per the
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I looked in the archive and found a debate about macron use. It seems to have been left unresolved. Let me know if that's not true.
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wasn’t a few years ago). Which is one of the reasons the Māori Language Commission recommends using macrons all the time.
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Does anyone with more time want to start a vote (or just move along with links if you're brave) to change the name of the
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If a word has taken on a substantially new meaning in English that it didn't have in Māori, then discard the macrons.
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I note there is also now a {{NZ-geo-stub}} for New Zealand places (I didn't make it, but it should be reported here!
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The edit history indicates that I changed the "Geogaphy" header to ",®|,3Taphy===". I did not. What is happening?
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along the lines of British English which has an OED variety (-ize endings) and a standard variety (-ise endings).
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article? This currently covers New Zealand as well and is supposed to cover other Pacific countries but is named
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Thanks for that Ziggurat. Knew that if I started at the bottom you'd get the picture when we collided. Cheers.
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From my reading they're one and the same, with a possible distinction of the area (Waikato) and tribe (Tainui):
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Probably just a mapping error. If any region was called Waitemata, it would be to the north and west of the
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English words borrowed from Maori should not have macrons (in article titles or the main text of articles).
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I just added a night shot, and I have a range of images that I would be happy to gift for the purpose. --
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Have they recently renamed our most populous territorial authority, or has some map-maker gone mad?
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New Zealand authoritative sources are now using macrons in the spelling of words borrowed from Māori
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encouraging editors to participate in the WikiProject New Zealand. In place of that, I've created
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I'm not enough of an expert to add this, but can anyone create some pages describing the various
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The same applies throughout New Zealand's geography articles, which is why we have articles on
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I support the positions taken by Vardion and Nurg in the previous discussion. Vardion said:
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dealing with land wars between 1861 and 1864, so I will rectify that too. Comments anyone?
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Furthermore, Waitemata City used to be part of what is now Waitakere City as described in
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correct English spelling in the context of New Zealand articles means correct NZE spelling
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against following the Māori Language Commission recommendation in the English Knowledge:
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was marked, clear as day, and as bold as the other cities, straight across the isthmus.
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If you have any articles that meet the Good article criteria, be sure to list them at
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I'm also happy to contribute, copyedit, or wikify any other articles as they come up.
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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON CIVIL UNION AND RELATIONSHIPS (STATUTORY REFERENCES) BILLS
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and will add a rather dopey looking hand-drawn kiwi by yours truly to the message.
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Knowledge:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/19xx in Australia - missing years
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FWIW, my stance is similar to those points attributed to Nurg above. This is an
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The following requires regular input from the New Zealand Wikipedean community:
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I’d still like to see macrons in all articles, so it would be a compromise ;-)
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Request moved from main page - the page in question was retained and is at
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I'm on it. I may as get get photos of the ship sailing as well as docked.-
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to maintain naming consistency with this category of other countries. See
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the same tribe? If not then what's the distinction? Michael King (in the
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The rest of Nurg's comments are also well worth reading, by the way. --
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I've given it a trim, but it's still an article of fluff about nothing.
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Apologies for the cross-posting, but I thought you'd like to know that
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Thank you so much. I should go and write an article on the ships now.
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the English Knowledge uses English names and correct English spelling
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correct spelling is still primarily defined by authoritative sources
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as a project notice to go on talk pages related to this project. --
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http://www.treatyofwaitangi.govt.nz/casestudies/waikatotainui.php
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Super, thanks for that! I have created a redirect page for it.
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add the births, deaths and major events of writers you add to
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has no mention that the Royal Navy was involved. (now fixed)
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As a slight follow-up to the 1.0 item, I'm trying to get
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That's one dividing line, but I can think of two others:
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Also One Tree Hill (see the disambig page for info why)
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Should we have a category for Order of New Zealand?
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http://www.waikato.ac.nz/international/hamilton.htm
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I noticed a user place a notice on 264:- a new wiki for open source news articles. 1868:New Zealand Collaboration of the Fortnight 1049:Here is a link to the previous discussion: 503:Category:Members of the Order of Australia 1635:Done (been bold, that is :). It's now at 946:Knowledge:Articles_for_deletion/Helengrad 58:up. Better go create a redirect page... 1637:Age of consent in Australia and Oceania 1144:. (I've just been having a debate with 1774:Does New Zealand wiki articles need a 270:- linked from the Knowledge Main page. 147:Territorial Authorities of New Zealand 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject New Zealand 1280:How do other people feel about this? 437:Knowledge:Pages for deletion/Liz shaw 7: 1460:Knowledge:Version 1.0 Editorial Team 591:Dictionary of New Zealand Biography 589:Just a notice: I found the online 584:Dictionary of New Zealand Biography 253:New Zealand news and current events 1216:Cabbage tree (Cordyline australis) 176:Category: Locations in New Zealand 24: 991:I hold the following to be true: 694:Chinese tracking ship in Auckland 198:Category:Geography of New Zealand 35:Polishing the literary references 1842:and the world's first automatic 1674:Knowledge has no article headed 974:. 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I'm a member of the 845:18:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 505:tag on her article, but no 1894: 1828:02:39, 14 April 2006 (UTC) 1814:14:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC) 1738:02:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC) 1652:23:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC) 1630:19:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC) 1607:01:09, 26 March 2006 (UTC) 1592:19:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC) 1575:23:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC) 1545:22:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC) 1527:04:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC) 1508:18:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC) 1468:Version 1.0 Editorial Team 324:Dictionary of NZ biography 282:Moving New Zealand project 115:08:41, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC) 1878:22:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC) 1860:21:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC) 1786:00:14, 9 April 2006 (UTC) 1765:02:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC) 1581:Gay rights in New Zealand 1454:17:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC) 1432:17:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC) 1418:12:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC) 1400:11:33, 2 March 2006 (UTC) 631:08:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC) 299:Moving info to Wikiportal 278:08:14, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) 235:02:47, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC) 208:03:41, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC) 192:12:55, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC) 156:23:01, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC) 103:07:53, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) 64:00:34, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC) 1776:Knowledge:Collaborations 1097:And Nurg proposed that: 860:Three Kings, New Zealand 525:Knowledge:Categorization 319:00:17, 29 May 2005 (UTC) 294:09:58, 27 May 2005 (UTC) 140:12:44, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC) 123:10:28, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC) 77:11:56, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC) 31:12:01, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC) 1806:Holidays in New Zealand 1752:is now up and running! 1709:, took place in......." 1520:Knowledge:Good articles 1365:Is Auckland now called 851:Mount Eden is irregular 169:NZ Geography categories 1390:Anyone know anything? 449:Liz Shaw (New Zealand) 49:New_Zealand_literature 1703:article states that ' 1701:New Zealand land wars 1690:New Zealand land wars 1092:a Maori one (katipō). 897:Hamilton, New Zealand 893:Roxburgh, New Zealand 511:Orders of New Zealand 439:. Opinions required. 364:Penguin History of NZ 1834:Years in New Zealand 1744:NZ FAC - The Catlins 1682:is redundant. (done) 944:NZ input needed for 671:...like the portal? 223:Category:New Zealand 160:What, you mean like 94:) and this PDF map: 1840:1913 in New Zealand 972:Talk:Māori language 889:Milton, New Zealand 809:image still needed? 1850:and a template at 1494:or directly in my 970:. Proposal is at 864:Epsom, New Zealand 611:• 2005-10-20 05:16 556:Spider Man villain 107:What is happening? 1761: 1707:the Flagstaff War 1662:I intend to move 1648: 1571: 1407:Waitemata Harbour 1195: 920: 729:Ports of Auckland 684: 612: 356:List of Maori iwi 317: 1885: 1874: 1759: 1676:Second Maori War 1646: 1569: 1542: 1513:I've replied at 1505: 1498:. 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Knowledge talk:WikiProject New Zealand
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Category:New_Zealand_writers
New_Zealand_literature
F. E. Maning
Ziggurat
Timeline of New Zealand history
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iwi
mi:Rārangi_iwi

Ziggurat
Moriori
SimonLyall
Grutness

dramatic
Category:Territorial Authorities of New Zealand
Category: Locations in New Zealand
Category: New Zealand geography
Grutness

Category:Geography of New Zealand
Knowledge:Categories_for_deletion#General_Category:Landforms_tidy-up
RedWolf
Category:New Zealand
Grutness

Grutness

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