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65: 2363:. In the toc, the two boxes at the top correspond to spring (no. 1-42), the fan-shaped box to summer (no. 43-72), bottom right box to autumn (no. 73-98) and the bottom left box to winter (99-118 or 119). Differences between the two orderings occur for instance for no 69, 70, 71 (should be close to the left/bottom border of the fan-shaped part) or no. 45 (3rd entry in the fan-shaped part). It would be great if somebody could match the toc to either of the two orderings. 35: 1901: 1823: 2413:
top and bottom line. Spring, autumn and winter titles of the series are ordered line-by line for both "1" and "2" which would favour "1" as the correct (original) order for the summer prints. On the other hand, as far as I can see, the order of "1" is used in (old) early 20th century books, while "2" is used in more recent publications.
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is Yoroi, Shohei, Suidobashi. In vertical reading, we don't read line/s as く, but like リ. That's why I thought the #1 reading was correct and it's the same way of reading as other lists. I agree with Phoenix7777 and bamese that the ordering is not important and there would be no problem by adding a note to the article.
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The difference is the way of reading in the fan-shaped part. But the #2 reading seems to be illogical to me. As a native speaker, it is more natural to read Yoroino watashi/鎧のわたし, Suidobashi/水道橋, Shouheibashi/昌平ばし if you should read the list by ordinary vertical reading. But in the #2 list, the order
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No need to be ashamed. After reading a bit, I still don't understand the rules of this style. Apparently the way to read it is connected to the strength of characters but that's all I understood. BTW, in another source (not related to ukiyoe or Hiroshige) it said that chirashigaki was typically used
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matches that of the more recent sources ("2"). As I wrote, so far I haven't seen a recent source that uses the ordering "1". But probably you are right, and the order of the prints is not that important. After all the toc was not designed by Hiroshige. I'll add a note when I expand/rewrite the intro
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Replying to my own question. Indeed only the order of summer prints differs between "1" and "2". The difference is due to different reading of the titles in the fan-shaped part (=summer): "1" results from reading line by line (first top then bottom line) while "2" from reading alternatingly between
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Just for your information: The reasoning for "2" ordering per Taschen book is the following. The titles in the fan-shaped part are organized in groups of three. Each of these triple groups starts with a title (writen with strong characters at the top), to the left of it is the second title in the
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Thanks. Could it be that the difference is due to the fact that the titles in the toc are arranged (roughly) in two ("horizontal") lines and that one source reads them line by line (first top line then bottom line) and the other source alternates between lines (first title on top line-:
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I am sorry this doesn’t respond to your question. However what we can say from these evidences is there are many numbering systems and none of which is a "legitimate" or "right" one. So I think it is enough to put a note which numbering system is used for the article. ――
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be deleted. I don't know how to distinguish between the fact that Princess Kiko signs and the fact that someone took a photograph of her signing. In either case, this image illustrates a small change in the context established by Juno Saruhashi and Yuko Takeshita.
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Thanks. I had hoped for a single list of coordinates which could be automagically translated into wikipedia's format. Seems that I will have to get them one by one. Also I had hoped to find (somewhat precise) coordinates for less well known places, such as
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Does anybody know of an online map of Edo period Tokyo (Edo)? It would be very good if the map allowed to compare locations in the past with present locations. Ideally the map should be from around 1856 to 1858 (for use in
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Excellent! Thanks a lot. That's what I was looking for. They seem to have all the places and coordinates of the viewpoint + viewing direction (rather than just the coordinates of the main subject of the print).
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in KML/KMZ or any other format. Surely somebody must have put together those on the internet somewhere but I can't find it. Hope that somebody from the project could help. It would be used for the table in the
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for use in a few places, and I thought I'd mention it here in case anyone else needs to use it. It can be used a couple different ways, so please read the documentation so you'll be aware of them. Enjoy!
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is an unconventional image which shows the princess signing at high school sign language speech contest. As you may not know, this member of the Imperial family has studied JSL and
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Hi, I've done some work on an article or two, and I think they should be re-assessed, and possibly upgraded in quality evaluation. Where do I request an article to be re-assessed?
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needs his kanji name added. Also, there should be an article to link to in the JA wikipedia as he was chief of the Maritime Self Defense Force after the war. Thanks in advance.
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I don't understand the complaint. I can't figure out how to respond to explicit criticism that there needs to be "analytical commentary on the picture"? --
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for such lists or are there multiple definitions/versions for them? I'd also be interested to read a well-sourced article on
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has links in the image caption. Some are approximate and some are exact place links where you can have the geo-coordinate.
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revealed critical flaws which could not be resolved. The discussion thread about deleting this file is archived at
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group and somewhat below the third title. This style of writing is also called chirashigaki (scattered writing).
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Although it's a blog and I'm not sure if the blog has the all places, I found something you wanted. This is the
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In case you have Google Earth installed, you can also use the overlay from the David Rumsey Map Collection
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There are at least two ways of ordering the prints of the One Hundred Famous Views of Edo by Hiroshige:
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This is in really poor shape-it's not a list as claimed, nor is it an article. What should be done?--
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I added kanji but couldn't find good reference. There is no corresponding Japanese article but found
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Thanks for checking it out. Indeed, by order I meant the non-chronological order as given by the
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If there is someone with better Japanese arguing skills than me, can you go convince the people
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Is that file still under fire? I thought the deletion debate ended about a half a year ago...
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could be of interest for en-wikipedia as well. What do you think? Question is, are there any
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Anyone want to come up with a good description for it? It has no description right now. ···
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The former two numbering systems are based on the chronological order determined by the
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I would like inputs for more knowledgeable editors on whatever TV show broadcasted on
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It ended at Commons, the deletionist wants to keep making it an issue everywhere.--
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Please help save this image-it may not fit on Commons, but it is okay here.--
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Knowledge:Files for deletion/2010 December 4#File:Princess Akishino JSL.jpg
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It was tagged with an invalid speedy delete tag, which I have removed. ···
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as it is not a list. If it ever becomes a list, it can be moved back. ···
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I am trying to find out which of the two orderings matches that in the
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I see. Thank you for the information. I'm ashamed of my ignorance.
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allows what they are saying it doesn't? I appreciate any help. ···
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