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still didn't sit well with me.I then came across a published work discussing Imperial Hotel, and it is clear that Wright designed the floor plan to resemble an "I" intersecting the middle of an "H" for "IH" Imperial Hotel, and which also became the logo inscribed on the silverware that Wright designed. Despite that it's still a bit mmmm but I'd like to hear what MerlinVtwelve thinks in case there's some cultural bias at work in my mind. I will look to put in the table with images in though. I would not have seen the need for that as I'm too impressed in the subject at the moment. I had not thought the subject was as interesting as it was when I first started, but I hope we have down the subject justice. Thanks for your feedback! Cheers,
2575:. We have almost reached the limit (as far as I can see), to expand the scope and depth of the article. The article now includes examples from across the former Empire of Japan and a section from Taiwan which I surprised to know that many ICS buildings still existed there, and that they are considered important heritage buildings. We also had help from Mr Hideki Yoshida of teikan.net who has spent almost 20 years photographing ICS buildings across the globe and as far away as Hawaii. Mr Yoshida released the rights of some important images for the article. I have thanked him by email, and have acknowledged his work in the edits and photograph descriptions. Is there anything else we can do to thank him? 2509: 1755:
train station using 3 different transliterations. So I think you might have a point to consider depending on the context. Given that Sampu Castle, is a place name and the common usage is Sampu, then it would expect that transliteration would be the most useful. Why not have a read of the different WP articles on romaji? (I'm on an iPad ATM travelling home so sry for not posting the links). It's no the most riveting reading but good enough for the bilingual? Hope that helps.
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English article could be expanded, I have translated that data to be included in the English article Knowledge article. This means that some data appears in the infobox but not in the main article. With the information in the infobox footnote, it would make sense that another bilingual editor will know to look to the Japanese wiki article to expand and cite the English version.
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I hear you in regard to the "高" matter related to the Taiwan section. I had that same "mmmm" reaction. I had thought it was a local thing related to Taiwan as the references are decent. Then I found some similar literature related to the layout of the old Seoul City Hall and the Kanji "本" and "引". It
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means; reading about it is less likely to be helpful. In this case, I think the stuff about buildings incorporating the character 高 are frankly not worth having. Firstly, it is not particularly easy for most English readers to grasp what this is about, and secondly the claims are extremely dubious. I
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Thanks for your efforts. I had no idea there was a formal name for this style, but once I looked at the gallery of images on the Japanese page it all seemed amazingly familiar. Actually, this is the sort of topic for which I think the more images and the less text the better. Look at lots and lots of
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I've passed over some articles that I'm not convinced should be on WP, and some articles that should be reclassified as more important and expanded. I have left messages on the article talk pages and listed those on my Userpage In a to-do list. I will revisit those later and might need to ask some of
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There are three romanisation styles, Hepburn, Kunrei-shiki, and Nihon-shiki. Kunrei-Shiki is based on the older Nihon-shiki. Then there is revised Hepburn where 「ん」is transliterated as "~m" (and a couple of others). I'm mildly dyslexic and make the similiar errors in both languages so I compensate by
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It's slightly confusing because in English publications in Taiwan, they refer to "Koa" style and also "Kao" style. It seems that Koa style is what they call Imperial Crown Style, whereas Kao style are generally specific to the city of Kaohsiung. The Japanese slightly modified the name of the city in
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Good oh. And I agree that the Lin references are sound, and the newspaper references a bonus. As you mentioned before, Taiwan wasn't annexed by military force, and that is most likely why so many buildings still remain, and had indigenous influences. Ide Kaoru spent most of his life there giving him
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Thank you for taking the time to look over the article and for you helpful feedback.I agree that good images are almost essential to see the nuances of what constitutes the style. This is especially so during the "revival period" after Shimoda, when there are deviations from his original design were
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For some infoboxes I have included data translated from the corresponding Japanese Knowledge article, and noted that in the infobox footnote. Many of those articles are stubs or start class but if the corresponding Japanese Knowledge article has well cited sources, and it seems worthwhile that the
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I understand that the article is not perfect, but it has been expanded and improved many more times than what it was several weeks ago, and is of better quality than the Japanese version. If anyone would like to read the current version and let us know how they found the article it would be very
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I had a quick read of the WP articles romaji and there are several systems still used in Japan and if the articles are accurate there different systems endorsed by different sections of the government e.g. monbusho and houmusho for passport names. There is even a photo in one of the articles of a
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I came across a similiar example in the medical journals of the JMA which transliterated Kanpo as Kampo (pre Meiji practitioners of Chinese medicine). The journal articles were published during and after the WW2 allied occupation. If I was translating from J-E today then I would use Kanpo, but it
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Oh my! Well that is interesting. I did notice some buildings did have 興和 influences. Can we not make sure this is evident in that section with the references we have? I think it's quite important because we have an article that intersects more than one culture, but also we need it to accurately
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Hi, I have just the past few weeks translating about 90% of the content from the Japanese version of Imperial Crown Style into the English version, and then expanding and improving the material from a review of the Japanese and English literature, with
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I think it is time to focus energy on the roughly 3500 main space articles associated with Karate. Full description of the rationale and goals can be found at the link above, please comment, discuss (and join if you support this project!) All the best,
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can't really see the character in the buildings I looked at, except in a highly imaginative way, so I took the first other building that came to mind - St. Paul's Cathedral in London - *then* I found a photo, and easily drew 高 on the front of it:
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more liberty to engage the people. I think it is worthwhile maintaining the scholarly integrity of the Taiwanese section based on the Taiwanese literature. It is available in English so that people can refer to them if necessary.
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also discusses an architectural practice you have described, suggesting that the practice is common in Taiwan. Furthermore that building was finished in 1980 and looks very much like a modern version of ICS.
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I'm well aware of all that. The problem is that when you look at most things outside of Knowledge, it's "Sumpu Castle" with an "m". At least all English here in Shizuoka and travel sites is this spelling.
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If you have some bilingual capacity and confident with infoboxes this can be very interesting, especially when the Japanese article is well written. I can help anyone who wants to have a try at this.
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would be useful to note the "Kampo" transliteration as a footnote. We used "Kampo" in the Japan Medical Association article because that was the transliteration used in the reference documents.
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re: information in parentheticals in the lead. One of the proposals is to remove CJK from these parentheticals (as well as IPA pronunciations). Please take part in the discussion.
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There's nothing unfortunate about having sources in Japanese. It's awesome to have sources in Japanese. So many topics under WP:JA don't have online sources that having a topic that
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inform readers from different cultures. I can help you polish the language if we have the content.Thank you for helping us. I know you have laboured with me through this work.
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the folk here what to do with those. There are also some articles such as the WW2 military articles that I have left until I have a sound basic knowledge of those subjects.
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I thought about being bold and moving this stuff but Knowledge uses Sunpu not Sumpu for the Sumpu Castle. I live here and nearly everything is Sumpu. Any preferences?
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I hope we can get the backlog down to a more manageable level in a couple of weeks. In the meantime I am also available to assist with some small translation tasks.
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I have been chipping away at reducing the backlog of articles needing infoboxes. The backlog is now down below 199 from approximately 260 a week a go.
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Dear editors, I am proposing a new WikiProject Karate to bring together editors with knowledge of this martial art specifically, especially due to
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built. In my sandbox, I do have a translated version of the table from the Japanese article that just needs the images reinserted,
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There is a proposal on Commons to globally replace an image, which is relevant to this WikiProject. Please voice your opinion
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names are almost always written in on'yomi also. Sources are plentiful as noted, although mostly in Japanese unfortunately.
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1920, because the original Chinese characters translated as a vulgar phrase ("beating the dog") – see this link
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using a combination of those styles so my preference is not the best guide. The person to ask is probably
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Not sure why it didn't show up for you but I removed it now. I'll try to help sometimes too.
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as he has fixed a lot of my funky romaji and might have some wisdom for you. Cheers
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While all constructive contributions to Knowledge are appreciated, pages may be
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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing
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My pleasure! Good for the mind and soul, and to keep me out of mischief.
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Nope, couldn't find anything at all. Only justification at all was that
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I strongly encourage people here to participate in this discussion. ···
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returns many book sources. Ruby characters どたごぜん are appended to kanji.
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Oh indeed the photomontage in the Art Deco article works wonderfully!
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that would give the reader an immediate visual survey of the style.
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Your thoughts - and hopefully actual citations - about this? --
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What is the Japanese for the TV Tokyo program Oha Coliseum?
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Discussion of "additional voices" in voice actor articles
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process can result in deletion without discussion, and
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I'm trying to find the Japanese name of the TV program
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Thank you so much, guys! It seems like it's "おはコロシアム"
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Cover women and their works in any field of interest
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