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65: 35: 2400:: I've been in a debate with editors who have wanted to remove the claim that she "is credited with writing the world's first novel", which may be factually inaccurate or need some qualifier, i.e. "first modern novel", "first psychological novel". The editors have attacked the credibility of sources provided, but have not provided any new sources to refute the claim either. One of their arguments (I think) is that 2084:); and last, I don't really pay much attention to Lady Gaga, but if she'd wear a meat-dress, why wouldn't she carry a hand-fan, if only to shoo away the flies. I must say, that's an interesting list of criteria you have for determining Wiki-importance. But forgive my density, I'm still not sure of your opinion regarding the Wiki-importance of 2461:. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are 2304:. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are 1776:
Why do so many (poor) articles cite "openhistory.org"? By definition openhistory.org is not a suitable or acceptable source for wikipedia. Essentially some random guy on the internet posted stuff to a website. That does not meet notability requirements or correct source requirements for wikipedia.
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lists openhistory under "References and external link". The other two articles only have it in "External Links" sections, which is much less serious. As for the images, they were taken from openhistory which is perfectly fine, unless you question that they depict what they claim to depict.
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Feel free to make a list of them, and then start working to fix them. That's what this project is about. If you don't want to fix them, then please at least make a list of the "so many (poor) articles)" so someone else can start working on them. Thanks!
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here. The recognition by UNESCO has been fairly big news in Japan, but I don't suppose that this has much influence. (Meanwhile, as for the excitement within en:WP over something similar, though one rung down, in the anglosphere, see all the responses
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and other similar terms currently use a random mixture of italics/non-italics, capitalised/non-capitalised and/or putting the terms in quotes. Does anyone have a view on what the preferred style should be?
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wasn't known to Western authors and is therefore not a relevant claim as it did not influence the evolution of the novel centuries later. Please see
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is mentioned in a number of old Chinese histories. To expand that article, I am looking for quotes from the following books that mention this war:
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as to whether the article should be renamed from "Wokou" to "Wako". If you are familiar with the topic, feel free to join the discussion. --
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is focusing on clearing out the backlog based on the month in which each article was tagged as being unreferenced. The current task is
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Thanks. So, not so many after all. Feel free to help find better sources. The rest of us will see what we can do, too.
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I would like to improve the ISS and Kibō articles, but have not received a response to my request for images such as
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Later, European nations imported Japanese fans, where they became quite popular in the 18th and 19th centuries.
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lists pages which link to www.openhistory.org. As of writing, there are three Japan-related articles:
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As non-English words that are not proper names, correct usage is lower case italics without quotes:
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Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the
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A Korean envoy introduced (Japanese) fans to the Chinese emperor in the 11th century
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note: Some editors have challenged the claims made in the article, as written by
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Apropos of notability and importance and all that, did anyone else here notice
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or make your own lists using one of the catscan tools, such as this search for
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Feel free to join it even if you are not familiar, as this is an encyclopedia
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and, as mentioned, ideally in English. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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They also attacked Japanese, and sometimes Spanish and Portuguese, ships.
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In deference to the primary contributing editor, I'll rate the article
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Apologies for somehow overlooking this. As for the questions posed by
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You should also check how the pages link to openhistory. In fact only
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in 2010, from Ministry of International Trade and Industry of Japan.
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article has not yet been rated for importance to WikiProject Japan.
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To be a bit more precise, there is an ongoing rename discussion at
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be evaluated to Top. However it should not be evaluated as low. ――
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All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable
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Uh, maybe I should go on a wikibreak. 1955:They became fashionable in China in the 1945:A Japanese monk presented folding fans ( 1930:I'd like to evaluate the article on the 2353:I would ask for support to include the 1938:importance. According to the article: 1827:Special:Linksearch/www.openhistory.org 48:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2406:Talk:Murasaki Shikibu#Earliest novel? 1697:. Your project's list is located at 7: 1701:and currently contains 81 articles. 1674:Unreferenced BLPs - the final surge 2357:article within WikiProject Japan. 2251:The corresponding Japanese article 2017:. 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