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However, the shrine's ban on photography is a private contractual issue between the shrine and the cameraman. If a cameraman takes a photograph of the shrine, the cameraman owns the copyright, not the shrine. The shrine can eject the cameraman and and sue him for violating their rules, but they don't
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I can write down japanese characters, but not the words itself, since I have no idea how. The character writings may be written in romaji (that's all I can come up with), or any other japanese character types. Also, the reason why they sgould be translated in Japanese words (from my userpage) because
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It's done that way in order to be consistent. If there are no other entities with a similar name, though, I agree it's best to use the shortest title and have a redirect from the longer title so people can still consistently find the articles. Also, please be sure to sign your username, not just the
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I added both the new picture and article to the Portal for you. As for where we get the pictures from, the Recognized Content list only lists FP from the English Wiki. The Portal, however, displays FPs from the English and Japanese Wikis and the commons. I included these just so we can have a little
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Maybe. But Commons doesn't accept unfree materials, period, regardless of any fair use claim. If we want the text, we should quote it in the articles in question and cite it to one of those reliable sources. If the photo of the sign is really necessary in addition to the text, it should be uploaded
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I don't think it should be done at all. There hasn't been any Knowledge-wide consensus on this sort of thing despite lots of effort, so to a certain extent the decisions have been made by individual WikiProjects. Cities and towns in the United States almost all are given as "City, State" even when
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I'm a little unclear on your request. For example, you have "Carson Annihilator Street Rod (カーソン・全滅させる・ストリート・ロッド)," and the text says "Kaason (Carson) Zenmetsu saseru (to cause annihilation), sutoriito (street) roddo (rod)." What did you want people to do with this? Your request seems a little bit
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The image is hosted on Commons, so you'd have to go there. Additionally, the description states, "Picture of Manchurian Plague victims in 1910 -1911 that has been historically mislabeled as "Body disposal at Unit 731" A much higher resolution photo, with Russian text stating that these were "Dead
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However, the text on the sign is not his work, Yushukan owns the text's copyright. All I know, uploading of photograhy or movie files from books or theaters are not accepted without pamission. Yushukan get fees from visitors and shows their showpieces including texts on the sign. If this file is
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I concur with cab. Whatever the museum's photography policy may or may not be, it is not germane to copyright. This image is a derivative work; as such, the copyright of the work being photographed (the prose) needs to be considered. The Commons cannot host any non-free media (save certain
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is now). This is a typical problem with categories of names that are "predisambiguated". What happens is that they get created at their predisambiguated name, and the most common name of the topic is neglected. The neglect can mean a lack of anything at the most common name, or a lack of
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Do you need a full translation or just the general idea? The right border is the "roster" of Japanese ships, and the left border is the "roster" of Russian ships. The bottom left has the printing information, and the top text is roughly equivalent to the English at the bottom.
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I was wondering if anyone knew of a Japanese database of music videos and their staff, or anywhere I could find this information. Just to be clear, I've looked on the band's official website, and on their label's site too (and looked through archives of the former) but still
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not strictly ambiguous. In previous discussions here only a very small number of designated cities were granted plain titles, which is consistent with that setup in the US. However, the redlinks associated with the plain titles
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Yes, I need someone to romanize those words. I tried installing something that allows me to write down in Japanese then romanizing it, but it did'nt work, so I had to set the language (from my PC) to English. Also, I had to use
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I've made an ad (about a month ago) which will appear in small ad box at the very top of this page if you reload enough times. So we don't overload the server, here it is for your enjoyment. Nothing fancy, but it does the job.
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Yes, a picture of copyrighted text on a sign probably doesn't qualify as an independent creative work which could receive its own copyright, or even as fair use of the text. So at first glance it looks like a copyvio to
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On your user page it says "This is for users that can translate Japanese symbols into Japanese words (not English)." So you want somebody to translate them into native Japanese words, e.g. ストーム → あらし; ハンター → かりゅうど?
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I understand the desire to have apparent consistency in naming for a given group of articles, but when doing so contradicts fundamental Knowledge principles, and creates practical problems, this is not acceptable.
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I have added several names written in Japanese characters, so I am wondering if anyone can translate them into Japanese words. If you are in the mood of doing this, feel free to translate them from my userpage.
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Unfortunately I also have no way to verify this news, however I hope that it isn't true... the project will have lost a truly fantastic editor. Again, if true, my heart goes out to his family and friends.
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I've standardized the formatting through either the beginning or end of March (so it follows the same format as in the generic date articles). I've also done others scattered throughout the year, as well.
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I added the notice of his death to the Commons account and to his Japanese Knowledge account (both in English) - I also updated the English meta list of deceased Wikipedians, which is located here:
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Ya, after I got the portal promoted to featured, I just ran out of gas and gave up on the anniversaries. Then I forgot about them. When I get a little more time I'll try to help you with a few! --
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article to FA status, and to, on completion, add a plaque in his honor to the talk page. Anyone who would like to help us in this effort is welcome to do so. Thank you for your attention.
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What I thought was going to be a quick look with Google has turned into a near-impossible journey of trying to find the directors (or any staff, for that matter) for the music videos of
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Joe is correct. They must be added manually. I always update the to-do with new FPC, and as I do that I usually always try to update the recognized content accordingly as well. --
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Pragmatically, locating an article at a disambiguated name implies that there is a conflict at the common name, but in these cases there is not. The common names are neglected.
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To be equitable here, what this photo is lacking is proof of the shrine's permission. The site does not say that all photography is banned–it says that permission is required:
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Fg2 edited every single day. This silence isn't like him. I am afraid he is gone for good. I didn't know even his name, but I feel like I lost a friend. I HAVE lost a friend.
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It used to be both, but I think we're getting enough that are here that were are using only those which are here. I haven't gone through all of them to see, though. ···
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Speaking of the Japan portal, I need to finish going through the anniversary pages and formatting them all the same (and creating the pages that don't yet exist). ···
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Should the naming of cities also be changed from the present "Name, Prefecture" scheme to just "Name" if it is not ambiguos or should it be done only for districts?
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The Russian ships are Retvizan, Tsarevich, Peresvyet, Oslyabya, Pobyeda, Poltava, Petropavlovsk, Sevastopol, Gromoboi, Rossiya, Rurik, Bayan, Domitori, and Donskoi.
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Can you guys take a look at this? I don't know if he existed or not, but it seems to me that a source is more credible than an editor without a source.
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It has been suggested that an article be worked on collaboratively in his memory. Is anyone here familiar enough with his interests to suggest one?
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Anyway, redirecting from the longer name to the shorter name is fine - but each article should be at the shorter name. Titles are supposed to be
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on a Torajiro Kasai image I was working up for FPC, could you help me out again? Any idea what the text in this image translates out as? Thanks!
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Wow, that was deleted ridiculously fast. It didn't even give me a chance to upload it to the en.wiki for fair-use. Anyway I can still do that? --
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Thanks. I hope I added a picture correctly. What does "When adding a new article or picture to the lists please also add it to the appropriate
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This file is incorrect, the citing web site is not writen as Unit 731. I don't know how to delete the file, please someone delete the file.--
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There are nine listed in both the English and the Japanese article. Can you be more specific about what you are needing help with? ···
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The file doesn't describe Yasukuni shrine's permission. Besides, the sign text's copyright seems not expired. This file infringes
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out of 31 videos, and what I was most surprised about was that upon watching the videos, none of the credits are displayed.
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so I can familiarize with japanese characters and started experimenting with them. My english is not pretty well, though.
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appropriate dab page reference or hat link. I then discovered that this condition applied to apparently all members of
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The file seems illegal. Yushukan museum bans visitors to photograph at the exhibition hall except for entrance hall.
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like asking someone to translate "McDonalds" or "Smith" to Japanese, which would simply be Makudonarudo and Sumisu.
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of other reliable sources (NY Times, FEER, CFR, Seoul Times, etc) quoting the very same text in part or in full.
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At least as amusing is that it apparently did not occur that I typed three instead of four tildes by accident.
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and came upon one of the articles about a district in Hokkaidō. I noticed that it was fully disambiguated as
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I think with the Yasukuni literature that I have, it uses deities. However, I need to double check on it.
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Would you guys weigh in on the talk page? An editor is trying to claim that this is somehow not murder.
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somewhere, so I checked. Not only was there no other such district, there was no other article named
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I don't think so, but I could be wrong. I know I manually added a bunch of those already listed. ···
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Oh finally, I was hoping there'd be something like this; thank you! Especially since they
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I have started a talk section to discuss which makes sense, "toaru" or "to aru," over at
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The more exact the better, but thanks for that info (largely confirms what I figured).
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Certainly, the cameraman owns copyright of the photography. The photograhy is his work.
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or heroic souls or heroic sprits. In japanse the enshrined were commonly called as 英霊
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Joe can you weigh in at the talkpage? This user's very insistent. Thanks and sorry.
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Sorry to be a dick, but I find it amusing that Nihonjoe didn't sign his name... —
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to my talk page. If it is true, Fg2 will be sorely missed. He hasn't edited since
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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As many of you might know from having read the most recent Knowledge Signpost,
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plague bodies held in storage awaiting scientific research" can be seen here:
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Naming of Japanese government entities - inconsistent with WP naming policy?
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lists two people with the name, though not much is mentioned about them. ···
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with Knowledge naming policy, guidelines and conventions, in particular
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to selected pictures, but without success. Could you take care of it?
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own his creative work just because it was created in their building.
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I agree with you. The word kami could be interpreted too broadly See
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I can't read or successfully machine translate all the Japanese
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Quoting one paragraph as an illustration easily qualifies as
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Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department Public Security Bureau
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I moved the image from the old name to the correct title.
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name caused me to wonder whether there existed another
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Yes, he's real, and I added the kanji for his name. ···
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http://hahn.zenfolio.com/p933515793/h2e4b7519#h2e4b7519
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locally on enwiki and a fair use justification given.
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has a list of most of -if not all of their directors.
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returns two hits, one for each of the two people. —
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Where do I add featured lists? 3011:) 14:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)-- 2737:Japan image copyright discussion 33: 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Japan 3378:be only as precise as necessary 3055:accepted, what become piracy?-- 2381:Japanese music videos and staff 1794:Knowledge:JA#Recognized_content 3397:Category:Districts_in_Hokkaidō 3393:Category:Districts_in_Hokkaidō 3362:Category:Districts_in_Hokkaidō 2977:Yushukan sign, Yasukuni Shrine 2066:more variety in the portal! -- 1765:06:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC) 1742:13:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC) 1697:There are some words, deiteies 1: 3184:Wikimedia Foundation logos). 2005:Portal:Japan/Selected picture 1897:Portal:Japan/Selected picture 3599:11:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC) 3575:08:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 3555:07:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 3536:23:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3504:22:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3476:23:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3445:22:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3429:22:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3404:21:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3323:07:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC) 3305:08:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 3291:08:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 3261:16:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 3225:12:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC) 3200:21:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 3175:15:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 3151:11:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 3126:10:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 3099:10:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 3065:09:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC) 3043:03:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC) 3021:03:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC) 2995:. 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