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2008:-- more specifically, over ingredients of the description of Graham as a geisha. I wish every geisha well, and I don't want anybody or anything misdescribed in en:WP; but I confess to a total lack of interest in geisha and really don't want to spend time (i) comparing what the article says with what its cited sources say, and (ii) explaining all this to interested/passionate parties. (I'm far more interested in the
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1796:. At which point, I start (i) wondering why the hell I should be bothering with all of this (at least as long as I'm not being paid to do so), (ii) thinking that my customary use of bog-standard Nihongo2 (and nothing more) seems a reasonable compromise. But I'm (moderately) open to persuasion. ¶
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