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Oh dear, so I see. I remember the article being very good at the time of a visit to Eigg a few years ago but much of it has nose-dived since. I've encountered numerous other articles so-affected. Eigg would be considerably improved with a straight revert to its GA-proximal version. Such action at the
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Some highly partial and choice phrasing throughout. "the Whig single party state's apologists"! I've also seen this unfounded claim in other articles: "It is widely believed that Whig poet Robert Burns was the first Poet
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As I become more familiar with the edits, I am increasingly concerned about issues of neutrality with these articles. The articles are essay-like, a "case" appears to being built, those on one "side" are referred to reverentially, those perceived as on the other with contempt, contemptible though
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Eigg was and remains in quite a state - it's a broad issue here as quite substantial numbers of edits were made by accounts later blocked as sockpuppets. In fact as a more general topic I note that my watchlist is largely cluttered up with bots amending talk pages, wikignomes messing about with
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I've just clocked that the article is overwhelmingly sourced to a single work and this is self-published. That surely throws the reliability of the article in grave doubt. This returns me to my inclination that the only way to address the multiple issues is to revert to a version prior to the
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