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seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, and for the nineteenth century holds true only for Gia Long's mission of 1803 and for a flurry of missions sent by the emperor Tu Duc during the 1860s and 1870s. All these missions were motivated by pure expediency on the part of the
Vietnamese. Gia Long had used the French to recover the Le throne, but thought it useful to entrench his position by seeking investiture from China. In China's eyes he and his successors were therefore vassal princes. But this was not how Gia Long saw himself. In 1806, only three years after his investiture as 'prince of Vietnam', he proclaimed himself emperor of Annam. For the rest of his reign he had nothing to do with China, and even claimed for Vietnam China's cherished title of 'Middle Kingdom', implicitly denying the centrality of the alien Manchu Ch'ing dynasty that had ruled China since 1644.
1459:(June 1885), was far weaker than the Chinese often made out. After the Chinese were definitively expelled from Vietnam in the fifteenth century, I find little record of tribute missions to Peking until Gia Long's mission of 1803. Gia Long had just reunited Vietnam, and the extension of his rule to Tonkin was bound to be of concern to China. Gia Long felt it prudent to give China some face. Thereafter, no tribute missions are recorded during the reigns of Minh Mang or Thieu Tri. They were revived by Tu Duc in the 1860s as a response to French aggression in Cochinchina. I see them as little more than the sort of appeal any small power faced with aggression would make to a powerful neighbour that might be persuaded to step in and help out. Whatever the Chinese thought, I don't think the Vietnamese considered themselves as tributaries in any meaningful sense.
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to be made as communes have the same titles as the districts. Aside from this there does not seem to be overwhelming evidence that this project is very active in this area judging by the states of the geo articles. You should be glad people are bothering to sort out and trying to improve the sub stubs articles on these places,. Even many of our articles on the main provinces are still stubs so forgive me for thinking there wasn't that many people around interested in coming to a consensus on it. If I had posted here beforehand, the likelihood would be that I would get a response from few people. Sorry if there are tens of people who would have liked to discuss the issue first.
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were sent between 1869 and 1880. But even Tu Duc did not think it worth sending a mission to Peking until the twenty-second year of his reign. He changed his mind in 1869 only because of steady French encroachment on
Vietnamese sovereignty during the 1860s. The 1869 mission, crucially, was provoked by the loss of three Vietnamese provinces to France only two years earlier. This and subsequent missions to China were no more than the kind of diplomatic appeal any country threatened with conquest might make to a neighbour powerful enough to intervene. They were essentially pragmatic, and certainly not motivated by any sense of vassalage to China.
490:. This is the correct name. If I was to move it to Doan Minh Phuong and all the others you'd probably object too, as the move would be incorrect. Basically the way in which the districts were listed was incorrect and it is standardising them like names of people. There is absolutely no reason why they shouldn't be standardised as "official" naming. Knowledge should strive to stick to official naming schemes as much as possible. Even in my english language National Geographic atlas the places of towns in Vietnam are on the map in the diaretics. On the same way the articles we have on
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902:, so I think you guys can create/edit interesting Buddhist articles in upcoming five days. Once you create or five fold expand Buddhist related articles (famous temples, monks, movies, literature, paintings, foods, etc) within 5 days, and then nominate it to the below place. After a review, your article can be featured on the main page. So be hurry if you are interested. :) Thanks.
1981:. The aim is to draw up a full directory of missing articles from Vietnamese wikipedia and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge and to improve existing articles by translation and finding reliable sources to back up information. We need your help, so if there are any Vietnamese speakers here please join up as your language skills are crucial.
1517:) which have different meanings in English (for example, there can be a tributary relation of A vis-à-vis B without sovereignty of B over A) – and may even mean different things when applied to different periods of (Western) history. These terms are themselves approximate translations of Chinese (and sino-vietnamese) terms which have themselves changed meaning over time.
1539:, the front of the Annam ruler had to touch the ground. Lê-hiên-tông (1740-1786) could avoid the ceremony for 20 years because his uncle Lê Ý Tông (1735-1740) had resigned and was still alive (the investiture ceremony was usually combined with a ceremony for the former Annam emperor). When he received he imperial investiture in 1761 and tried to do only five
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basis in historical fact. Instead, they accepted it at face value and simply argued that times had moved on. In fact, China’s pretensions to suzerainty over
Vietnam were neither long-standing nor particularly impressive. The French might have saved themselves much later trouble if they had deflated them with a brief history lesson.
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2208:), is this really necessary? Because they are all modern administrative units and of course no one in Vietnam nowadays uses Hán Tự names for them. If necessary, I suggest that we include Hán Tự names only in the "History" part of articles, not in the introduction part. Please share your opinion about this issue. Thank you.
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3. I am very surprised that you could write “In my view, it (i.e., a tributary relationship?) did not exist between the fifteenth and eighteenth centuries”. In 1663, the
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Hi, I just recreated a redirect for that word because the article I wanted to go to did not appear in the search results I got. However, a text search turned up a number of apparently
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Tuyên Quang, Hải Phòng is old provinces which was founded and named before 1954; so Han Tu version of their name is necessary. Nowadays, in
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Because of that, I would like to ask if anyone is interested in sorting, editing, and uploading the usable photos for me. I also need a suggestion on how/where I'll make the initial uploading of the photos, since I am unsure of
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for instance is in the correct naming with the accent, not under "Lome". Aside from this the convention on wikipedia is to list
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It's much more complicated than that, because as you know, some current provinces are result of merging or dividing former administrative unit, so are their names, for example: (past) Vĩnh Phú = (present) Vĩnh Phúc + Phú Thọ or (past) Hà Nam Ninh = (past) Nam Hà + Ninh Bình = (present) Hà Nam + Nam
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The IP's talk above is mine, I forgot to sign in, sorry for the inconvenience. The fact is using Hán Tự names in the introduction part may cause a wrong idea for non-Vietnamese reader that Hán Tự names are still used as a current name in Vietnam, that's why I'd like to avoid that confusion. I don't
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My computer doesn't like big images and it would take too long to upload, even when I crop them to reduce size. Propaganda is definitely fine, as Viet govt stuff is PD. Not sure why a photo of an ad would be illegal beecause the ad is there to promtoe something else so advertising it doesnt make it
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Well, actually I don't have source about the origin of place-names in Vietnam, for example, I think Bắc Kạn is pure Vietnamese name without Hán Tự root but I cannot be sure without reliable source. In the case of Lạng Sơn, we can introduce one sentence like that: "Lạng Sơn (Hán Tự:...) means "Lạng
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During its dispute with France over Tonkin, China would insist that Vietnam had been a vassal of China since time immemorial, and that China therefore had an inalienable right to be consulted on Vietnamese affairs. Surprisingly, the French diplomats failed to challenge this claim by examining its
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Is there a source that the official name is "X District" etc? People don't usually use "California State" "Tamil Nadu state" "Guangdong Province" etc, although for some reason everything in VN is tagged "Vinh Long Province etc". In the case of things like "District 1, Saigon", "5th Arrondissement,
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You can change those articles for a better look. In French universities's library, books about Vietnam are not that abundant as you think and access to EFEO's catalogue is very difficult. But of course I will try to find something useful for this subject. And by the way, I don't live in Paris :).
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etc , and all these people he claimed to be communists. The crowd, as far as I can tell, was more like an organised Diemist demonstration. Actually more like any Asian country where teh govt cadres tell the villagers to applaud at the end. There were a stack of people who all started clapping and
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His successor Minh Mang (1820–41), warming to this theme, liked to contrast 'orthodox Vietnam' with 'decadent China'. The emperor Thieu Tri (1841–7) also ignored China. Only during the reign of Tu Duc (1847–83) are tribute missions to Peking recorded with any regularity. Five missions to China
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Article needs attention. I found it in the list of those needing wikifying, and I've done a bit, but it needs more loving care. I'm tempted to cut much of the dull listing of administrative boundaries right the way from the Hung Kings period to post 1945. But I'm not going to do anything drastic
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And I think we should place the etymology section in the beginning of the article, not in the end. If the article already have a history section, we should add etymology there; don't start another etymology section. An article with a lot of sections which contain little information is not a good
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Looking over the folder again, there are 14 folders full of photos, that were numbered by the camera. There is actually nearly 1GB here, rather than the 700+MB I mentioned to YellowMonkey yesterday. There's probably nearly 1000 photos here, but many pictures were taken for redundancy. I have not
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Given that the Vietnamese had long ago thrown off Chinese direct rule, it is worthwhile examining the validity of China's claim to suzerainty over Vietnam. It has been claimed that Vietnam was one of China’s most assiduous courtiers during the Ch'ing period. This is certainly not true for the
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Yes, so even if people disagree with moving to the official names, these pages would have had to have been moved soon enough anyway as communes and main village sin the districts share the same name as the district. As it was before the districts were under a naming scheme that would be used on
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Has this fellow Major Lien Thanh, the former head of police in Hue come round to your area to speak about his new book "Bien Dong Mien Trung" about the Buddhist crisis in 1966, the Tet Offensive and Hue Massacre in 1968 and the 1972 communist offensive? I presume he went around the US before
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I noticed it; it seems like a good idea. Do they intend to create new articles in this subject area? If so, which ones? That user could make a subpage of his/her userpage or our WikiProject page (or just use our WikiProject's "articles to be created" section) to plan out the creation of such
1382:(1880s), I was under the impression that it was plain yellow (this would explain the later French protectorate flag, which places a tricolour in the canton of an otherwise plain yellow flag). I note that a plain yellow flag has been included in the infoboxes for some of the battles of the
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and is referenced. Well the source is wrong, as the slogan is obscene, and I suspect that if it wasn't a mistake due to translating skill, if was a deliberate mistake to avoid a obscenity for perhaps Political correctness reasons. Should it just be changed to its real meaning?
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4. You say that "no tribute missions are recorded during the reign of Minh Mang". Maurice Durand (1957) provides the details of such a mission (and indications on many others). As for Thiệu Trị, I do not know of his relations – if any - with the Peking court.
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which is a free Java program for such the purpose - large quantity uploading to Wikimedia Commons. I learned how to use it yesterday, but it is easy to use and reduce time. If you're not sure about food name or something, just name them like
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Biography of an architect, in need of translation. Saw it on the articles in need of translation page, just thought I'd copy here so more people will see it. If the subject proves not to be notable it can be speedied as a non-English page.
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I've noticed some interest in the question of whether, and to what extent, Vietnam was a tributary of China during the Ch'ing dynasty. I'd like to explore this question further on this page. I have nearly completed a book on the
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cheering in a raucous way each time he bagged Thich Tri Quang, and their way of doing it didn't appear surprised as though they were taking new info, it seemed feigned. Most of them were well known Catholic activists lol.
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I declined the speedy deletion because it seems to be promoting a place rather than a company, product or person, but the tone is promotional and the article needs help, if anyone would like to take a look. - Dank
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Australia. Apparently 1000+ people turned up in Melbourne. About 300 people here came out of maybe 12,000 Viets in the city, although only about 1% were under 45. He made some quite sensational claims about
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not if Han Tu is necessary but how Han Tu would be included in these article. Your idea of including Han Tu in history section is good but how could we include Han Tu in short articles such as
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Tông (1649-1662). Lê Huyền Tông dragged his feet for three years (who knows? The Ching may make a comeback!) and returned the seal only in 1666. He could then receive the official investiture.
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1620:Three kowtows and best wishes for your book.--
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2106:Retain which category - only one is needed?
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2226:Tuyen Quang
2202:Tuyên Quang
2082:Please see
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1266:Timeshifter
1232:participant
1073:Ho Chi Minh
738:User:Addbot
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710:report bugs
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650:Itsmejudith
534:Dr. Blofeld
501:Dr. Blofeld
314:Vietnam War
128:Itsmejudith
107:Please see
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2336:Dư địa chí
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1568:suzerainty
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1248:See also:
1010:WP:SOAPBOX
894:. Many of
760:WP Physics
748:Thanks. —
324:WP:MILHIST
198:articles.
141:I concur.
2364:this page
2206:Hải Phòng
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1766:buildings
1515:vassalage
1372:Can Vuong
888:Christmas
826:Amore Mio
695:full list
603:Amore Mio
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470:Badagnani
437:Badagnani
300:Amore Mio
200:Badagnani
143:Badagnani
113:Badagnani
95:Archive 8
87:Archive 6
82:Archive 5
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70:Archive 3
65:Archive 2
60:Archive 1
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2260:this one
2140:dragfyre
2063:contribs
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1592:suzerain
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1077:Kauffner
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900:Buddhism
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750:Headbomb
172:contribs
2324:work.--
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