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is with greater numbers it is our opinion the game becomes less scientific and more a trial of charging and brute force ... Charles W Alcock, Hon Sec of Football Association and Captain of English Eleven". One reason for the absence of a formal response to Alcock's challenge may have been different football codes being followed in Scotland at the time. A written reply to Alcock's letter above states: "Mr Alcock's challenge to meet a Scotch eleven on the borders sounds very well and is doubtless well meant. But it may not be generally well known that Mr Alcock is a very leading supporter of what is called the 'association game' ... devotees of the 'association' rules will find no foemen worthy of their steel in Scotland". Despite this the FA were hoping to play in Scotland as early as February 1872.
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rush, Leckie and others dribbling the ball so smartly that the English lines were closely besieged and the ball was soon behind", "Weir now had a splendid run for Scotland into the heart of his opponents' territory and "Kerr ... closed the match by the most brilliant run of the day, dribbling the ball past the whole field."
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The Scots wore dark blue shirts. This match is, however, not the origin of the blue Scotland shirt, as contemporary reports of the 5 February 1872 rugby international at the Oval clearly show that "the Scotch were easily distinguishable by their uniform of blue jerseys ... the jerseys having the
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newspaper acknowledges that in the second half England played similarly: "During the first half of the game the English team did not work so well together, but in the second half they left nothing to be desired in this respect." There is no specific description of a passing manoeuvre in the lengthy
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Alcock then proceeded to offer another challenge with a Scottish team drawn from Scotland and proposed the north of England as a venue. He appeared to be particularly concerned about the number of players in Scottish football teams at the time, adding: "More than eleven we do not care to play as it
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whether his lines were cast North or South of the Tweed and that if in the face of the invitations publicly given through the columns of leading journals of Scotland the representative eleven consisted chiefly of Anglo-Scotians ... the fault lies on the heads of the players of the north, not on the
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On a pitch that was heavy due to the continuous rain over the previous three days, the smaller and lighter Scottish side pushed their English counterparts hard. The Scots had a goal disallowed in the first half after the umpires decided that the ball had cleared the tape that was used to represent
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The match itself illustrated the advantage gained by the Queen's Park players "through knowing each others' play" as all came from the same club. Contemporary match reports clearly show dribbling play by both the English and the Scottish sides, for example: "The Scotch now came away with a great
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wrote that "The result was received with rapturous applause by the spectators and the cheers proposed by each XI for their antagonists were continued by the onlookers until the last member of the two sides had disappeared" and that "The match was in every sense a signal success, as the play was
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reported " seem to be adepts at passing the ball". There is no evidence in the article that the author attended the match, as the reader is clearly pointed to match descriptions in "sporting journals". It is also of note that the 5 March 1872 match between Wanderers and Queen's Park contains no
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but discarded in 1873). The throw-in was awarded to the first team to touch the ball down after it went out of play (this too would be changed in 1873); and there was a break for half-time only because no goals had been scored in the first half.
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to sanction it. In the FA's minutes of 3 October 1872 it was noted "In order to further the interests of the Association in Scotland, it was decided that during the current season, a team should be sent to Glasgow to play a match v Scotland".
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After the 1870 matches, there was resentment in Scotland that their team did not contain more players based in Scotland. Alcock himself was categorical about where he felt responsibility lay, writing in
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management who sought the services of all alike impartially. To call the team London Scotchmen contributes nothing. The match was, as announced, to all intents and purposes between England and Scotland.
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and contained players from nine clubs; Alcock himself was unable to play due to injury. The match, initially scheduled for 2pm, was delayed for 20 minutes. The 4,000 spectators paid an entry fee of a
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but both were unavailable. The teams for this match were gathered together "with some difficulty, each side losing some of their best men almost at the last moment". The Scottish side was selected by
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at this time. See: The term "crossbar" used by Sheffield as early as March 1872: Bell's Life in London and Sporting Chronicle (London, England), Saturday, 9 March 1872; Issue 2,697.
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thistle embroidered." The thistle had been worn previously in the 1871 rugby international. The English wore white shirts. The English wore caps, while the Scots wore red
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I must join issue with your correspondent in some instances. First, I assert that of whatever the Scotch eleven may have been composed the right to play was
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Though the match finished goalless, the quality of play was widely praised. "It was allowed to be the best game ever seen in Scotland" wrote the
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The reports of the match that were published in the newspapers reveal further details of the 1872 Laws of the Game. Scotland won a
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Although the Scottish team are acknowledged to have worked better together during the first half, the contemporary account in
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Tape was used before crossbars were introduced in Scotland, although crossbars were being used under the
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At half-time, both teams rotated the goalkeeping duties among their players: England from
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after England's attackers kicked the ball over the goal-line (a feature borrowed from
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throughout as spirited and a pleasant as can possibly be imagined."
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as the first international. It took place on 30 November 1872 at
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Scottish Football Reminiscences and Sketches. By D. D. Bone 1890
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contemporary match reports, although two weeks' later
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Index

1872 Scotland vs England football match

International friendly
Scotland
England
Hamilton Crescent
Partick
Referee
association football
Scotland
England
FIFA
Hamilton Crescent
West of Scotland Cricket Club
Partick
Glasgow
England v Scotland representative football matches (1870–1872)
Edinburgh
The Football Association
Charles Alcock
The Oval
Robert Smith
Queen's Park
November 1870 match
both of the 1871 games
James Smith
The Scotsman

Hamilton Crescent
Partick

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