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Vates

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Sources: Compendious Description of the Museums of Ancient Sculpture, Greek and Roman, in the Vatican Palace, by Cav. H. J. Massi, First Curator of the Vatican Museums and Galleries, Paleographer and Professor of the Italian and French Languages, Rome, Third Edition, 1889, Title page, page
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of Bards. The Gorsedd is not a neo-druidic entity like the one mentioned above, but is more concerned with Welsh arts and culture; however, the ceremony and practices are largely based on reimaginings of druidism by
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directly from Celtic. Despite being borrowed from the Latin form, the English word is generally used to refer to ancient Celtic seers rather than Roman ones.
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In pagan Rome the vates resided on the Vatican Hill, the Hill of the Vates. The Vatican Hill takes its name from the Latin word Vaticanus,
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to denote prophets and soothsayers in general; the word fell into disuse in Latin until it was revived by
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The terminology discussed in this article relates to an Old Celtic word which can be reconstructed as *
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is pronounced the way it is due to a misunderstanding of how the Greek word was pronounced.
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in English is a borrowing and adaptation of a Greek rendering of the same Celtic term *
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is widely thought to have cognates in the Germanic languages, such as the Gothic term
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sense in Italic also. The likelihood of this etymology and its relevance to the word
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About the Ethnolinguistics of Gaulish People: The Case for a Kartic Substrate
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An ovate is also the initial level one can attain in the modern Welsh
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Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the Other Italic Languages
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Wodan und andere forschungsgeschichtliche Leichen: exhumiert
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discussed the similarities and differences between the "
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Term for ancient Celtic bards, prophets and philosophers
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Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities
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On Heroes, Hero-Worship, & the Heroic in History
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Liguori Publications. p. 135. 792:) for something carried about in the 636: 594: 7: 1069: 1067: 1053: 1051: 1049: 1047: 1012: 1010: 1008: 1006: 915:priesthood, the other two being the 551:word which can be reconstructed as * 25: 972:Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids 869:, in allusion to the oracles, or 1339: 832:The earliest Latin writers used 519: 469: 430: 379: 368: 367: 49: 911:) were one of three classes of 907: 631: 1243:Classical descriptions of the 1086:University of Wales Dictionary 844:could describe himself as the 784:, with the same meaning, from 1: 1039:The Macro-Comparative Journal 931:(in particular administering 923:. 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Index

Ovates
a series
Celtic mythologies

Religion
Proto
Deities
list
Animism
Irish
Scottish
Welsh
Breton
Cornish
Mythological Cycle
Ulster Cycle
Fianna Cycle
Kings' Cycles
Mabinogion
Matter of Britain
Welsh Triads
Otherworld
Beheading game
Champion's portion
Geas
Imbas
Sovereignty goddess
Loathly lady
Magic mist
Niskai

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