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Discourse to the Greeks concerning Hades

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136:, those whom the Greeks believed were judges of the underworld, as the arbiters of mankind's fate. Instead, Christ will exercise "the righteous judgment of the Father towards all men", with everlasting punishment for the wicked and eternal bliss for the righteous. The author exhorts his audience to believe in God in order to participate in the reward of the just. 119:
their souls to different bodies. He insists that God is able to do this, likening the dead body both to sown seed and to material cast into "a potter's furnace, in order to be formed again". The author says that when clothed with their pure resurrected bodies, the just will no longer be subject to
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under the title "Against Plato, on the Cause of the Universe" is essentially the same work as the "Discourse" attributed to Josephus. This Hippolytus work is in fact a fragment from a longer treatise entitled "Against the Greeks." There are, however, some slight differences between the Hippolytus
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The author describes Hades as having "a lake of unquenchable fire" prepared by God for a future date of judgment. However, both the just and unjust dead are confined in other, separate portions of Hades; all go through a gate guarded by "an
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version and the one that has passed under Josephus' name, notably in the final "Josephus" paragraph. This includes the "In whatsoever ways I shall find you" quote mentioned above, which is not in Hippolytus' fragment as given in the
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The final paragraph quotes an alleged saying of Christ, "In whatsoever ways I shall find you, in them shall I judge you entirely", which the author uses to claim that if a person living a virtuous life falls into
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region, wherein the light of this world does not shine; from which circumstance, that in this region the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must be in it perpetual
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disease or misery. The unjust, in contrast, will receive their bodies unchanged, including their original diseases. All (just and unjust) will be brought before
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throughout the "Discourse". For example, the division of the just and unjust to the right and left suggests
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with an host", with the just being guided to the right hand toward a region of light called the
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since at least the 9th century and was first published in a translation of Josephus' works by
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and maintained that the piece was by Josephus, "preached or written when he was
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We now know that a work by Hippolytus published in Vol. 5 of the
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William Whiston in "Dissertation 6", part of the appendix to his
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The author assures the Greeks he is addressing that God will
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Although generally still reprinted in editions of Whiston's
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are appointed as guardians to them, who distribute to them
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Hippolytus' "Against Plato, on the Cause of the Universe"
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and the "chaos" clearly are related to the story of the
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later scholars have realized that this attribution is
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translation, printed the text of this "Discourse" in
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josephus's discourse to the greeks concerning hades.
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Index

Hippolytus of Rome
Josephus
William Whiston
public domain
afterlife
Greeks
Greco-Romans
Hades
angels
archangel
Bosom of Abraham
chaos
resurrect the dead
transmigrating
Jesus Christ
judge
Minos
Rhadamanthus
sin
New Testament
Matthew 25:32–33
Bosom of Abraham
rich man and Lazarus
Luke 16:19–31
1 Corinthians 15:37–38
John 5:22
dissertation
Greek
bishop of Jerusalem
incorrect

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