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God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and ... God ... (were) to make himself visible ... if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form — like yourselves in all the
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also took extensive contemporaneous notes and transferred the notes to his journal with editorializations, but his original notes were not preserved. One author (Searle) estimates that the surviving notes of the sermon contain roughly 30% of the words of the actual address, but that together, they
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The topics in the discourse were not new to Smith's preaching. Nearly all the subjects treated were continuing threads from earlier sermons. However, this discourse brought these ideas together in one connected narrative, and has had much wider distribution than most of the rest of his public
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of August 15, 1844. A later version resulted from amalgamation of the Richards, Woodruff, Bullock and Clayton texts. This amalgamation was done by church employee, Jonathan Grimshaw, roughly ten years after Smith's death and is generally regarded as the "official" version of
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before returning to heaven and to serving as the God of humankind. However, soon after Young died, the Adam–God doctrine fell out of favor within the LDS Church and was replaced by a more traditional biblical
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The sermon was not always viewed in a favorable light by leaders of the LDS Church or other denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement. It was not published in the LDS Church's 1912
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Is there nothing to be done? — no preparation — no salvation for our fathers and friends who have died without having had the opportunity to obey the decrees of the Son of Man?
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It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another.
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The LDS Church today teaches that the King Follett discourse was "the most direct, public explanation" of unique doctrines, such as that of humanity's
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God hath made a provision that every spirit in the eternal world can be ... saved unless he has committed (the) unpardonable sin.
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I don't blame anyone for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I could not have believed it myself.
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The Prophet Joseph Smith's King Follet Discourse: A Six-Column Comparison of Original Notes and Amalgamation.
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A version reconstructed (by Bullock) from the Bullock and Clayton records was published in the church paper
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A full, verbatim account of the speech does not exist, but notes exist, taken contemporaneously, by
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I take my ring from my finger and liken it unto the mind of man ... because it has no beginning"
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Ehat, Andrew F. and Cook, Lyndon W., "The Words of Joseph Smith," (Orem, Utah: Grandin, 1991).
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man is not a contingent being, moreover God made the world from preexisting "chaotic matter."
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taught by Brigham Young, second president of the LDS Church. According to this doctrine,
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succinctly summarized a portion of the doctrine explained in this discourse using a
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called the sermon "one of the truly remarkable sermons ever preached in America."
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by a mob. The discourse was presented to a congregation of about twenty thousand
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A Textual History of the KFD, Part I: Sources to the 'History of Joseph Smith'
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The pure principles of element, are principles that can never be destroyed."
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to be one of the most important given by Smith on the nature of
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Church History, Selections From the Encyclopedia of Mormonism.
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A parallel account of known texts of the King Follett Discourse
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Smith discussed the potential of mankind by referencing Romans
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Regarding his personal religious experiences, Smith stated: "
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stated the LDS Church does not support the Adam–God doctrine.
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The ideas of the King Follett sermon were a precursor to the
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History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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J. Stapley, "A Textual History of the KFD, Part II."
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Index

King Follett Discourse
Nauvoo, Illinois
Joseph Smith
president
Latter Day Saint movement
killed
Latter Day Saints
general conference
funeral
Elder King Follett
divinization
exaltation
Harold Bloom
Thomas Bullock
William Clayton
Willard Richards
Wilford Woodruff
Times and Seasons
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Brigham Young
Stan Larson
History of the Church
church president
Joseph F. Smith
B. H. Roberts
First Council of the Seventy
Ensign
Adam–God doctrine
Adam
exalted

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