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station, which turned the two Thury 6-pole dynamos that each produce 1000 to 1100 volts at 45 amperes. In order to keep the same current, their speed varies from 20 to 475 rpm, regulated by changing the flow through the water turbine. The circuit supplied 15 motors along the line stretching to Genoa, including a 60 hp (44 kW) motor at the railway station, and motor transformers at Central Electric Lighting Station in Genoa. Additional generation plants followed providing lighting as well as motive power to a number of mills, factories and railway repair shops.
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The main limitations of the Thury system was that series distribution meant greater opportunity for power failures. Placing loads in series means that since current must flow through each device to get to the next, if the circuit is broken in any of the devices, the current stops at all other loads.
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system transmitted 20 megawatts of hydroelectric power a distance of 124 miles (200 km), including 6 miles (10 km) of underground cable. The system used eight series-connected generators with dual commutators for a total voltage of 150,000 volts between the poles. The system was steadily
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in the winter of 1880-1881. Thury was impressed with the latitude that Edison's researchers were given to pursue their ideas and developed a friendship with Edison. He gained many insights, but also came to the conclusion that Edison's Dynamos could be significantly improved. Back in Geneva, he
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upgraded from 4.3 to 20 MW and ran from about 1906 until 1936. By 1913, fifteen Thury systems were in use in England, Hungary, Russia, Switzerland, France and Italy. Thury systems operated up to the 1930s, but the rotating conversion machinery required high maintenance and had high energy loss.
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along with a medical student Jean-Jacques Nussberger who financed the project. It could reach 50 km/h and would be one of the first Swiss built cars. In 1904, Thury produced a gasoline electric parallel hybrid, whose all electric range was 40 km with a 550 kg battery, or 5 km
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company. Earlier the company had built a water supply for Genoa from the Gorzente River, and were interested whether turbines for electrical generation might address their long standing problem of reducing excess pressure. The first turbine of 140 hp (100 kW) was installed at Galvani
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An example of the mechanical voltage conversion employed was described for the lighting of Sampierdarena Train Station. The Thury system powered a 60 hp (44 kW) motor which drove via belts twelve Siemens and two Technomasio dynamos for the station's lights. Genoa's Thury system was
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did. Thury developed this idea into the first commercial system for high-voltage DC transmission, using generators in series to attain high transmission voltages. Like Brush's dynamos, current is kept constant, and when increasing load demands more pressure, voltage is increased.
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became available for power transmission during the period 1920 to 1940 was it possible to utilize high-voltage direct current for large transmission projects, but by that time AC transmission was dominant, cheap and reliable.
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In 1882, Thury's 6 pole dynamos were more compact than Edison's. The small 1,300 kg (2,900 lb) version produced 22 kW at 600 rpm, while a larger 4,500 kg (9,900 lb) version produced 66 kW at 350
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After his resignation in 1910, he worked as a consultant, building in France a high-frequency generator for wireless telegraph transmissions operating at 40 kilohertz with a 1000 kW maximum output.
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René Thury's father, Marc-Antoine Thury, was a teacher of Natural History. From 1874 René became an apprentice at Société Instruments Physiques, a precision machine building firm in Geneva working for
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Attention was turned to conversion of DC to lower voltages that was more efficient and less cumbersome that mechanically driving smaller generators as in the Sampierdarena Railway station example.
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progressively upgraded to transmit 630 kW at 14 kV DC over a circuit distance of 120 km, using later dynamos capable of producing 2.5 megawatts (5000 volts at 500 amperes) using double
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Some Swiss and German financiers were investigating financing a concession to build Edison company equipment and as part of this, Thury spent 6 months visiting the
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In the 1920s, economical conversion to and from HVDC began to be possible with glass bulb mercury arc rectifiers, but this help came too late for the Thury system.
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and Brush high voltage DC arc light systems, but since each load is not independent as in modern parallel distribution, the approach was inherently more fragile.
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and built the first dynamo with voltages of up to 25,000 volts. He also developed the Thury control (Régulateur à Déclic).
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directed the fabrication under SIP license of Edison and Gramme dynamos. He later worked briefly for Bürgin & Alioth
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This was a challenge for all DC systems because the induction principle used in the step down transformers pioneered by
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left SIP in 1876, Thury became his successor. He was also served as a laboratory technician of Prof.
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Donald Beaty et al., "Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers 11th Ed.", McGraw Hill, 1978
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upgraded later to a voltage of 14 kV, power of 2.5 MW and a length of 120 km, dismantled
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Such series distribution was possible with automatic short circuiting mechanisms as in the
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was won by alternating current because transmission of power at high voltage could use
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ACW's Insulator Info - Book Reference Info - History of Electrical Systems and Cables
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1911 Metropolitan Electric Supply Company, London, 100-ampere 5,000-volt generators
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The Electrical Engineer: An Illustrated Record and Review of Electrical Progress
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René Thury married Caroline Leuthold in 1889 and had five daughters and a son.
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1889 first station at 6 kV supplying Genoa from Gorzente River hydro turbines.
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Diagram of a Thury System balancing voltage of supply with voltage of load
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In 1885 he built a system to supply Bözingen (a municipality now part of
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but avoiding transformers by placing generators and loads in series as
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Thury systems were installed over the next few years at several sites:
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Dynamo-electric Machinery: A Manual for Students of Electrotechnics
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in the early 1880s only worked with AC. Not until grid controlled
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and was known in the professional world as the "King of DC."
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1899 between St-Maurice and Lausanne (22 kV, 3.7 megawatts)
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La Chaux-de-Fonds & Le Locle DC transmission scheme
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Notice d'autorité - Thury, René (CH.AVG.ThuryISAAR)
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Geneva
Geneva
High voltage direct current
French Legion of Honor
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zürich
Electrical engineering
Swiss
electrical engineering
high voltage direct current
electricity transmission
Emil Bürgin
dynamos
Zénobe Gramme
Bürgin
Jacques-Louis Soret
University of Geneva
tricycle
Menlo Park
Thomas Edison
Société d'électricité Alioth

Biel/Bienne
commutation
war of the currents
transformers
Marcel Deprez
direct current
arc light
Charles F. Brush

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