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171:, as 'Mr Salmond'. In the 1841 census he was entered at that address as 'Thomas MacGaradh', aged 70, and born in Scotland. He ostensibly registered the death of his wife Catherine Matilda at Portland Place North, on 14 February 1841, again calling himself Thomas MacGaradh, but describing her as 'Matilda Manning, widow'. When the census was taken a few months later Anne was living with him at this address as Anne MacGaradh. MacGaradh was, his sons said, a war-cry of the Hay family but it was entirely their creation and it seems likely that they or Anne were responsible for their father's statements. The death of Catherine Matilda in 1841 did, however, eventually allow the purchase by Charles of the family's life interest in the trust properties from his father's bankruptcy assignees. 421: 57:"They succeeded in fabricating around them an aura of bogus royalty which attracted the allegiance of a few romantic Jacobites in Victorian times". Herbert Vaughan called their story "an impudent fabrication" and "an unblushing fraud" but it was as Sir Charles Petrie wrote "proof of the hold which the House of Stuart has never ceased to exercise upon popular imagination in the British Isles, so that ... if a man were to declare himself the heir to the Yorkist or Tudor dynasty, he would attract but little attention, yet if he claim to be a Stuart he will find hundreds ready to believe him". 155:
the death certificates of several of her children show it as Burton. The first child, William (died 1878), who used the surname MacGarrow, claimed to have been born in Glamorganshire in Wales but his baptism and the exact whereabouts of Thomas and Ann at this time have not been determined. It is said that from 1816 to 1829 Thomas was based at Boulogne, 'a safe refuge for English debtors'. He certainly had increasing financial problems and in February 1817 he unsuccessfully appealed to the former Lord Chancellor,
192: 79: 19: 366:(Edinburgh, 1842), costing ten guineas, which purported to be a reproduction, with colour illustrations, of a better version of the 1721 manuscript, this one being dated to 1571. This John claimed had passed through the hands of Prince Charles Edward Stuart to his father Thomas, though his father's letter on the subject, addressed to him as Ian and signed 'J. T. Stuart Hay' in 1829, seems likely to be bogus. 282:, 'only ten thousand pounds, unless she survives her two sisters, who equally share with her', but the couple then moved to live in London. In his letter to Chambers just prior to the marriage John asked for a loan of Β£100 until his wife's dividends were paid but when his father-in-law eventually died in March 1872 the total estate was sworn at 'under Β£1,500' and later as 'under Β£2,000'. 159:, for help with the possible sale of some of the property held in trust under his marriage settlement. A last minute attempt to come to an arrangement about it failed and on 17 January 1818, as the result of an action in the Court of King's Bench against Thomas and his son John (in a plea of debt for Β£300 and damages by James Barstow), Thomas was imprisoned for debt in the 1299: 432:
jure monarch of England. William Donaldson has characterised the work as an act of "solemn self-projection" into a tradition of political myth-making long-established in Scotland. Although the tales were 'copiously augmented with historical notes', in truth Admiral John Carter Allen did not command any ship in 1773, being on half-pay from 1771 to 1775.
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Elizabeth Arnold, his first wife's mother, dated in 1788 and proved in 1789. She left them twenty guineas each and Β£1,000 to their father. The identity of their mother(s) has not been found. There was much tension in the family later and at one time the youngest son, John, was heard to say of Thomas, 'he is no brother of mine'.
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is but a fashion of modern date'. On behalf of the Society of Scottish Antiquaries he was shown a transcript of part of the brothers' manuscript but from its language alone 'indignantly declared his conviction that the MS itself must be an absolute fabrication'. Scott remembered seeing one of the brothers wearing the badge of
54:. They claimed that Thomas had, for fear of kidnapping or assassination, been brought secretly to England on a ship captained by their grandfather, Admiral John Carter Allen (1725–1800), and adopted by him. Thomas was thus, they claimed, 'de jure monarch of England in place of the then reigning sovereign Queen Victoria'. 474:(2 vols. Edinburgh, 1848), but three of their benefactors, the Earl of Moray, the Marquis of Bute and Thomas Dick-Lauder, died that year and the brothers were now so discredited that Charles took his wife to Prague where their son was in the Austrian army and John followed soon after. John's wife died at 175:
the Fields, Middlesex, on 23 February 1852, aged 84. His son, Charles, in order to distance himself from him, wrote in 1877 that his father was called James and had died in 1839. Some believed that he was buried at Old St Pancras, Middlesex (as stated in the introduction to the 1892 edition of his sons'
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Publishing anonymously, John penned a number of historical fictions during the early 1830s, including a number of stories which the pair hinted at in their 1847 poetry collection, 'Lays of the Deer Forest', as 'Stuart Tales'. These appeared in the Royal Lady's Magazine between 1831 and 1834, and were
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However, additional research in 2014 showed that John Carter Allen did not marry until 1780 and that his three children were all illegitimate, born in a period in which he held no commission. The three were named 'natural children of John Cator Allen' in the twelfth of sixteen codicils to the will of
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The stories, taken together, were designed in a roundabout way to suggest that the brothers' supposed grandfather was in reality Commodore O'Haloran, and that the child, their father (known as Thomas Allen), was in reality the child of Prince Charles Edward Stuart and Louise of Stolberg, and thus de
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It is said that Thomas 'spent the last seven years of his life in bed', confined to his room at 22 Henry Street, Pentonville. He was there as 'John Salmon' when the Census was taken in 1851 and he died at that address as Thomas Hay Allen on 14 February 1852. He was buried in that name at St Giles in
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warned Dick-Lauder that the brothers 'are men of warm imaginations ... of much accomplishment but little probity – that is, in antiquarian matters'. Sir Walter Scott, who died in 1832, had rejected the entire notion of clan tartans, saying that the 'idea of distinguishing the clans by their tartans
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then built 'an antique shooting lodge' for them on Eilean Aigas, an islet in the river Beauly, near Eskadale, Inverness, and there, always wearing the Stuart tartan, they held court from 1838 to 1845, attending the Catholic church at Eskadale and being known as 'the Princes'. The house is described
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However, sometime about 1807 Thomas Allen formed a connection with a much younger woman, Ann, who was born in Hackney about 1790, and by whom he had five illegitimate children between 1808 and 1829. Her surname is usually given as Salmon (as she had a niece of that name living with her in 1851) but
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Although frequently referred to as Captain Allen, Thomas Allen never attained that rank. He retired from the Navy as a Lieutenant in 1798 and his subsequent history and movements and the extent to which he approved of his sons' later claims, are all far from clear. He had married Catherine Matilda
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in 1788, and Admiral John Allen (1771–1853). The three were named in John Carter Allen's will, though he bequeathed only Β£100 to Thomas and Β£100 and a pair of silver candlesticks to Jane, leaving Β£2,200 and the residue to John. This disparity caused comment and some have speculated that Thomas was
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His reticence and desired anonymity was probably due to his illegitimacy and his relationship with Anne, but it was complicated by the later statements of his two legitimate sons on whom he looked with some displeasure. He had little in common with them and they in turn looked down on Anne as 'of
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John, who called himself 'The Chevalier John Sobieski Stewart', in 1871 described himself as Count d'Albanie, Colonel of Hussars, and said that he was born at Versailles, France. He died without issue at 52 Stanley Street, St George Hanover Square, 13 February 1872, aged 74, and was buried at
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published almost simultaneously alongside the 'Tales of the Cavalier,' which were precursors to their much later novel, 'Tales of the Century' (1846), and by a series of 'Tales of the Scottish Border' and 'Legends of the Alhambra,' all published either anonymously, or signed with a '
349:(as the Earls of Erroll were), 'which he could have no more right to wear than the Crown'. Dick-Lauder was himself an author of historical romances and had put up a monument to the Lauder family in Edinburgh showing a quite spurious descent, but one 'as he wished it to be'. 332:(1802–1871)'. However, the delusional John Sobieski Stuart, in spite of his expressed desire to withdraw from the public eye, went so far as to claim, in a letter to Chambers, that he and his brother had 'a body of supporters ready to push their claims to the uttermost'. 110:(who died in 1793 and for whom John Carter Allen's younger brother William Allen (1729–1811) had worked as an office clerk) had said that 'he had a claim to the title of Erroll ... as being descended from the old Earl Hay in the male line', a worthless statement as 289:, in 1818, and their son, Napoleon de la Fleuriere (1823–1881), was baptised at St Margaret, Westminster, in 1823. According to Matilda, her husband had been in the French service from 1804 to 1814 and from 1832 to 1853, but had been taken prisoner at 371:
The Costume of the Clans: with observations upon the literature, arts, manufactures and commerce of the Highland and Western Isles during the middle ages; and the influence of the sixteenth, seventeenth and eighteenth centuries upon their present
265:. The brothers were at Logie House, Edinkillie, Morayshire, from 1829 to 1838, when John used the name Stuart Allan. As John Sobieski Stuart he and his brother, calling themselves 'grandsons to the Pretender', had visited Ireland in May 1836. 117:
However, the uncertainty of their descent and the romantic nature of the various claims surrounding them greatly influenced the two brothers. They also added Hay to their names and in 1822 the eldest son, as John Hay Allan, published a
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much lower rank in life' than their mother. Thomas and Anne apparently had their last child, Gilbert Hay Allen (1829–1902), in south London in 1829 and in 1839 Thomas was in hiding at 10 Portland Place North, Clapham Road,
257:, and revealing a fair knowledge of that county but including several allusions to his claimed descent from the Hays of Erroll. From 1826 to 1829, John joined his brother Charles at Windy Hill (now Milton Brodie), Alves, 143:, 4 August 1795 and baptised there, 5 October 1795; (2) Matilda Allen, born at Oystermouth, Glamorgan, 18 October 1799 and baptised there, 12 January 1800; and (3) Charles Manning Allen, born at Rotherfield Grays, 242:(1745–1798). The marriage was publicised as that of 'Charles Stuart Hay Allen'. However, the couple moved to Scotland after marriage and their first child, Anna Marie Stuart, born 27 July 1823, was baptised at 147:, 4 July 1802 and baptised there, 3 August 1802. Under their marriage settlement the couple and their future children had a life interest and income from properties in Mare Street and Well Street, 1077:, commencing in 1907. He concluded (page v) that 'nothing has been found of a sufficiently definite nature to support those claims. At the same time there is not sufficient evidence to damn them'. 222:
in London. The youngest, Charles Manning Allen, who we now know was not born until 1802, married at St George, Hanover Square, on 9 October 1822, Anna Gardiner, who had an income from property in
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that Prince Charles Edward Stuart 'could have had no possible reason for concealing the birth of an heir'; any idea that he had 'left a legitimate male progeny' was 'the silliest of dreams'.
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John's brother Charles then assumed the title of Count of Albany and was active in Catholic circles in London but died from the same address (by then called 52 Alderney Street) on a trip to
70:(Edinburgh, 1845), described by the historian Hugh Trevor-Roper as "shot through with pure fantasy and bare faced forgery", have been sources widely used by the tartan industry in Scotland. 202:
No detail of the educations of Thomas's two sons has been found though they claimed that the secret of their royal descent had been revealed to them about 1811, that they had fought for
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in 1773, where portraits of the Old and Young Pretenders were prominent, Beaton claimed to have been sworn to secrecy, but later to have seen a baby taken on board a British warship,
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In Scotland the brothers 'conducted themselves as members of a reigning dynasty who wished to preserve their incognito' and their claims 'were accorded a level of credence' (as the
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John Carter Allen himself had been baptised at St Dunstan in the West in 1724/5, the son of Carter Allen (1700–1734), an attorney in the parish of St Clement Eastcheap in the
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Thomas's eldest son, John Carter Allen, calling himself John Hay Allan, had apparently already been in Scotland for some time and in 1822 he published a volume of poems,
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Dreamy Fables': Hays, Higgenbotham, Allen and the Sobieski Stuarts', in the same Magazine, vol. 34, no. 3 (September 2022) 135-149, with considerable additions at
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Considerable interest in clans and tartans continued, and the following year, under the name John Sobieski Stolberg Stuart, John and his brother Charles published
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In June 1829 the elder brother had shown a manuscript, containing tartan patterns and dated in 1721, to Sir Thomas Dick-Lauder who was much impressed by it, but
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were completely discredited in a devastating anonymous article 'The heirs of the Stuarts', believed to be by George Skene (1807–1875), Professor of Law at
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in 1862 and the brothers did not return to England until 1868. In London they then occupied themselves with research, being well-known figures in the
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in 1860. Buchanan also suggests that John Sobieski Stuart was the author of six articles published under the series title "Tales of the
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archives has enabled Craig Buchanan to identify Charles Edward Stuart, his daughter Maria, and sister-in-law Georgina as the authors of
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Buchanan, Craig, "Excursions of Pleasure: The Travel Writing of the Sobieski Stuarts", in Brown, Rhona, & Lyall, Scott (eds.),
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John and Charles Sobieski Stuart, a self portrait painted at Eilean Aigas, a house on the estate of, and offered to the pair by,
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Hugh Trevor-Roper, "Invention of tradition: The Highland tradition of Scotland', in Eric Hobsbawm and Terrence Ranger, eds.,
317: 301:, by whom she had at least three children. This seems not to have stopped her from soliciting the Cross of an Officer of the 266: 196: 381:(Edinburgh, 1847) in which they provided three scenes of the birth, youth and marriage of a man known by the Gaelic name of 459:
that 'this pretended MS of the sixteenth century is an absolute fabrication, and of no authority whatever' and about the
122:(Edinburgh, 1840), though his descent is not shown in the book and the parentage of Emma Hay or Hays has not been found. 1381: 1366: 120:
Genealogical table of the Hays, from William de Haya, cupbearer to Malcolm IV, 1170, down to 1840, with all the branches
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and did not return to France until 1830. In 1835 using the name Matilda McFleur she then married at St Mary Abbots,
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New Light on the Sobieski Stuarts, Genealogists' Magazine, Volume 31, Number 8, December 2014, pages 298-306
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then followed and the brothers' ancestral claims, which had received little acceptance in England, and the
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The gravestone of Charles Edward Louis Casimir Stuart and Lady Alice Hay shows the pretended title of
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Using the names John Sobieski Stuart and Charles Edward Stuart the brothers followed this with their
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Thomas Allen's daughter Matilda had married Henry Timothy Boisquet de la Fleuriere, at St Alphege,
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C. L. Berry, 'An annotated pedigree of the Allen family and the so-called Sobieski-Stuarts', in
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had become extinct in the male line in 1717, but believed by Thomas who added Hay to his name.
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illegitimate, but an income had been guaranteed to him under his marriage settlement in 1792.
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However, calling himself John Sobieski Stuart, the elder brother then produced the lavish
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and Elizabeth Fitzclarence (a daughter of King William IV ), but they had no issue.
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and was the widow of Major Charles Gardiner (1780–1818), the childless only son of
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for Henry Timothy in 1854. Her date of death has not been found.
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Index


Scotland
Royal Navy
Italy
Prince Charles Edward Stuart
Princess Louise of Stolberg-Gedern
Vestiarium Scoticum

John Carter Allen
Brighton
City of London
the late Lord Hillsborough
the peerage
Owen Manning
Surrey
Glamorgan
Oxfordshire
Hackney
Lord Erskine
Fleet Prison
Lambeth

Lord Lovat
Napoleon
Dresden
Leipzig
Waterloo
Gaelic
Ireland
General William Gardiner

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