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you please spell it out 2 FA WS?????? If your trying to say series quotes are not part of any other World Series articles YOUR WRONG CHECK THE LAST THREE... UM just how is the video random??? Looks to me the FOX LOGO is clearly there, it is available on yankees.com, mlb.com, and phillies.com It does not seem to be random when you click on it, it show you what you need to see. It is as credible as any source out there, on any other wikipedia page.--
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excerpt in question makes him seem like more of a focal point than he ever was when really his was just one voice of many. Also feel like the successful performances of other pitchers should be included as well if this point is to remain. I still think it is tedious and sets a bad precedent to start mentioning media-created hype in the body of this article.
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OH I'M SORRY STAX IS THIS YOUR ARTICLE? DO YOU OWN IT? A VIDEO OF THEY ACTUAL CALL IS NOT A REFERENCE??? By the way what does this mean. "Linking to a random video is not a cite and a series quotes section is NOT in the 2 FA WS articles" I don't mean to be rude, but I don't read gibberish, could
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There is a disagreement on whether media speculation blaming Burnett's loss in Game 5 was caused by short rest belongs in the article or not. While I don't think it does, I am perfectly fine with it remaining in the article as long as the facts pointing to the contrary, citing Burnett's success on
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I think someone should add quotes to the 2009 World Series page, no? Every other series page has, at least, the calls of the big plays and broadcasters calling the end of the series. You could also throw in Jimmy Rollins' "Phillies in five" quote and Mariano Rivera's response ("that's not what's
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Still have issue with the emphasis on Gene Wojcenski (or whatever his name is), I consider myself more than an average baseball fan and I still am not that familiar with this guy. I do remember this media controversy and he certainly wasn't the only one who chimed in on this discourse, but the
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However there has been a refusal by a user to compromise on whether media speculation about AJ Burnett's performance belongs in the article or not as well as refusal to allow facts pointing the contrary to be posted in the article. If this viewpoint is to remain in the article than it's only
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reasonable that the opposing viewpoint when properly cited by fact, also be included. It is also improper to falsely label edits one does not agree with as vandalism and refuse to compromise. I contend that both perspectives must be included or the entire portion should be nixed. Thanks.
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Ok then, lets go ahead and do it (that does seem like the best style to me, no potential mix up with MM and DD when they could be switched, like November 2 or February 11). I'll format new refs that way, and whenever you see one in a section you're editing try to fix it!
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Jay-Z and Alesha Keys will be performing their song Empire State of Mind prior to game 2 of the world series. Also can we list the opening pitch of the games and who sang the national athem and other music as it happenes.--Cooly123 16:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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Here's a question on images. I've added Lee's image to Game 5 for now, but what do you think about swapping Lee and Utley with Games 1 and 5? Game 1 was Lee's truly dominant and historic start, and Game 5 is where Utley tied Reggie's record. Whaddya say?
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Add the info (2004 World Series does, mentioning the shots are from 07) if you think it's needed. It's just that sometimes the "stock" image provides a better image of the person discussed within than anything available in that moment. See
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The other pitchers are not mentioned because they were not starting in this game nor do their performances speak to AJ's durability. Woj is mentioned because Knowledge (XXG) prefers specifically naming the source(s) you quote rather than
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Seriously, stop adding that. It is a completely random set of factoids cited entirely to one random news story that only talks about Philly. If you really think the Curse is notable make a brief mention in the Aftermath section. But read
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covers the main issue with a quote section. If it is pertinent to a particular aspect of the article, include the quote like an image (or in the prose itself). If it doesn't, it shouldn't be forced into the article via a quote section.
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Would it be worth adding a section on all of the umpire controversy involved in the series? The whole post-season has included it, but I can't remember a World Series with so many calls that have been wrong on the replay.
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Please understand that I am not against using stock pics. But if we use one, we have to also tell readers that it's not taken during the series for clearify. They did that well in 2004 WS and 2008 WS articles...
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Question, which set of sourcing should we use? I currently have the Variety numbers listed, but they use a different definition for ratings/share, apparently because those numbers differ greatly from:
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Nope, just a random reader who thinks it makes sense for this type of article. Every other WS page has important quotes and heck, even the ALDS pages have quotes calling the important moments.
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Two things guys. First, unsourced quotes will get deleted really fast. Second, lets not overload the thing and turn it into a trivia section. A few choice ones is nice, too many is ugly.
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As I said on your talk page, my issue is not with your edits but the POINTY nature of them coupled with an unformatted link as a reference. It's all about the style, not the substance.
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Sounds good. By the way, I'm going to put the note about Cabrera leaving with a hammy strain back in with a reference; I'm 90% sure I saw it mentioned in one of the wrap-up articles.
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Should a note be made about the season series between the two teams? I believe they played only once during the regular season with the Phillies winning two in a three game series.
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of the press release on Game 2. Looks to confirm the validity of TV By the Numbers, at least to me, as it's a direct host of the file (like Futon Critic which I recently used on
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I personally prefer MMM DD, YYYY. We're Americans here, whether it's called the "World Series" or not. But I don't care very much about it, so I could be easily overruled. --
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Why was there a mention of the blown call in the top of the 8th, in the caption of the Rivera photo? That was only a makeup call, for the blown call in the bottom of the 7th.
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The two quotes currently in the article remain uncited. Also, I don't think we need to dedicate an entire section to two quotes which really tell the reader nothing new.
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I'd say easily, since this has been a subject of great interest that many people have added to, and the high volume of edits has allowed for quality control. --
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Above the line scores for each game of the series, there is a label that calls them "box scores." I am pretty sure these are line scores. Even the article (
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This article shouldn’t have two sections both titled Background. Either the second section should be retitled or incorporated into the first. Any thoughts?
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I found that 2008 WS uses stock pics, too. However, can we provide additional information, such as when/where they were taken, so reader won't be misled?--
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are the featured-quality examples upon which this article is modeled. The fact that other articles have quotes is an invalid argument under
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Actually, their numbers in "household" ratings/share are the same. The household rating/share (a.k.a. fast national ratings issued by NMR):
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Yeah, I'm sure we'll get some good ones now that so many people put stuff on Flickr, etc. Should be the best WS for free pictures yet!
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Lots of teams have tried and failed to defend their World Championship. I suspect they are not all uniformly covered in wikipedia. ←
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How can the general seeker after the truth give the slightest credence to an article which has had 500 edits in a couple of days?--
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Currently some of the refs are YYYY-MM-DD format and some are Month DD, YYYY. Which format do we want to standardize to?
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Here is a great ratings summary article for the world series from zap2it.com which should be integreted someway
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There we go, perfecto (though stinks about Melky, he is a bit overrated tho. Be nice to give Gardner a start).
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Yeah, I'm a big fan of Mekly. He's a gritty player... not the best hitter, but usually makes his AB's count.
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Here's the opening ceremony image for game 3 that was removed during the FAC because of unclear sourcing.
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Sounds good to me. It's what 2004 did as well, so the #s will be on a consistent scale. Re-writing now.
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Is TVbythenumbers often used as a reliable source? My first instinct would be to go with MLB's numbers.
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If that's the case then just a heads up that it would probably be good to remove the non-free logo, per
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Any thoughts on trying again at bringing this to FAC? I could always give a pre-FAC review if desired.
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They are also trying to become the first NL team to defend their title in the World Series since the
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info. That section will have to get incorporated to meet style guidelines, but the info is useful.
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Shouldn't the Yankees, the team with home field advantage, be the home team in the composite box?
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Agree. Lee's Game 1 performance is truly dominant. Move his pic to G1 seems more appropriate.--
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It'll get added. Like I said above, this is going to become my current project. I'll use
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Go for it. I would but I've gotta' go grab dinner before the dining hall closes! :)
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It's not random. It's not politics. It's just a fact every Yankee fan knows.
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to make the refs concise, once their next weekly ratings table comes out.
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That was the score of the latest game. The series isn't over yet :).
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Okay. It can be kept, but needs to be edited into past tense. --
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The World series is over, so could this be removed or edited?--
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I think the household ratings/share are fair enough for us.--
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