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I changed it to the ANSS coords, because the other figures were uncited, but I'm happy to go with those in the link given above, particularly as, in this case, they are explicit and don't have to be estimated off a map. Regarding the apparent differences that you mention, perhaps an e-mail/message to
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I implemented the apparent consensus about the flags discussed here, but was met by reverts from a combative anonymous user. I don't know if they have any actual support, certainly until it's voiced here in anything resembling proper process, I don't consider these reverts valid and will continue to
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Those intensities cited by usgs.gov are based on online reports, and they seem quite questionable to me. There should be some other, more reliable, source for that. For example, how can an earthquake of 4.4 magnitude have an intensity of VI, and earthquake of 4.7 only IV, and both are in the same
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indicates that this list format with flags is not the standard for good earthquake articles. There are some good earthquake articles where there are tables and flags, but that's not the same as this. And the empty content complaint can be addressed under
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which seems to use another base map (looks like OpenStreetMap), but it covers an even larger area and is not quite detailed enough to discern the specific coordinates, yet it seems much more accurate than the first renders.
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I entirely agree, we should only include actual assistance, be it financial and/or in the form of rescue teams/equipment on the ground, rather than just fine words.
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Dear all, in Croatia on 28th and 29th December was happen two different earthquakes with followed lower earthquakes. This article speak about on 29th Decbmer not
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In the meantime, they published a video map of the epicenters, and that one has a different base map and doesn't seem to be off -
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I understand that, but I still think it would be more reasonable to rely on the reports from the Croatian Seismological Survey (
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Most intensity data in earthquakes around the globe come from observations by individual members of the public. Where there are
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I agree. But since their intent was to illustrate something on an area of over 1500 km2, a 1km error seems negligible enough. --
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Again, an article is tarted up with the flags, most preceding useless pandering quotes from politicians, making a
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You're right, those coordinates don't match the map at all - I estimate about 45.47, 16.12 from the map.
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are normally combined with these more widespread observations to produce definitive intensity maps (
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https://www.pmf.unizg.hr/geof/seizmoloska_sluzba/potresi_kod_petrinje?@=1m6dc#news_118053
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Can we have this in English? It's not that special that it couldn't be translated.
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I wasn't suggesting that we didn't use it, just surprised to see any discrepancy.
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A news item involving 2020 Petrinja earthquake was featured on Knowledge (XXG)'s
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A lot better, but still out by about 1 km to the WNW by my estimation.
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This article defines the earlier ones as foreshocks already. --
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However, I am puzzled by those maps of theirs - their stated
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Dear all, you can use both dates in this article like on
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In the meantime, they also published another map at
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvZhrpIVng&t=49
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but both earthquakes must be mention. Best regards,
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Herak, Tomljenović et al have issued a review paper
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