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It looks like someone invented a new rule. If these ssources undergo rigorous fact-checking they should not be judged solely on their country of origin. Meanwhile, I see a liberal use of Al Jazeera, which, according to our policy, many on Knowledge recognize as a biased source on the Arab-Israeli
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We should either put both sides' civilian casualties in the bottom section, or we should both sides' civilian casualties alongside the military ones. I support the latter option. But currently, we have Israeli civilian casualties alongside the military ones, while Palestinian military casualties
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The number of confirmed terrorists/insurgents killed is out of date and should be updated in the infobox. According to one of the most recent reports by the ISW, "Hamas stated that Israeli forces have killed at least 30 Palestinian fighters in the West Bank since August 28..."
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AJ is green at RSN and was snow closed in a recent RFC as reliable for the IP conflict so its reliability is not in question. AJ is also not a "side" in the conflict, which Israel is, so it would be better if there were at least one non Israeli source, do you have one?
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Another argument for "Horror" is that it is the classical translation of «رعب» and my reference for that is the Arabic version Knowledge articles titles that contain "Horror" in their english version. "Terror" is usually the classical translation for «إرهاب» —
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My understanding of the current event tag was to warn users that the article may not be current. If nobody is making new contributions then all the more reason to add it until an appropriate amount of time has passed, then revisit as a draft, stub, or merge.
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Since the existence of the conflict of interest principle. Calling ToI, Ynet and JP, which rely extensively and almost exclusively on Israeli military statements, are not to be considered reliable sources by any reasonable standard.
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The PIJ named their operation Horror of the Camps رعب المخيمات, not Terror of the Camps; Al Mayadeen, and particularly Ro'ya's lousy churnalism, are not reliable sources in any aspect, whether related or unrelated to the conflict.
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addendum-- I see the article on what I'm talking about, but for some reason the MAGAV who were killed are only described as "wounded". Wondering if someone can change the description to "KIA" instead to reflect the headline?
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Since when do we discriminate against reliable sources based on their country of origin? Should we stop using Al Jazeera as well? And by the way, counterterrorism label seems to be supported by multiple reliable sources.
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It seems as though someone deleted the 3 Israeli occupation police officers who were killed in a driveby shooting in the occupied West Bank. Those should count towards Israeli military casualties as well.
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why did you remove the perpetrator of the occupation in the opening paragraph? And why did you add “counterterrorism” POV to it? And why did you add an entire POV paragraph sourced to Israeli websites?
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there has been recent activity in Hebron which is in the south, just today there was resistance targeting three Israeli security forces in the city and it has expanded operations there
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It is biased but reliable, and in the case of this war (with focus on Gaza) it is the only source to be used given the lack of other outlet’s boots on the ground within the region
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I included the source above. Please change "At least 14 insurgents killed" to "At least 30 insurgents killed" under the Casualties and Losses section of the infobox. Thank you.
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Self-explanatory but for the sake of completeness: this is an ongoing conflict of total duration so far <48h. The tag really should have been placed there from the outset.
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my only suggestion is: should it be operation or invasion? I’m not sure if it’s large enough to be considered as the latter but it is larger scale than previous raids
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Are the three who were shot by the Jordanian national at Allenby Bridge not officially employees of the israeli security apparatus? As in uniformed border personnel?
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of my move that removed "northern" was unwarranted; can you support your claim by providing evidence showing how RS titles have used "northern" first?
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It was and was subsequently removed because not many editors are editing/commenting, still the case so Idk why you have restored it.
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Fixed the spelling and tagged for possible synth, however please properly present edit requests in future and avoid making speeches.
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as more concise and with "northern" being somewhat unnecessary. Moreover, operations have begun in the south now, so it's moved on.
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regardless, but as others have said, there is also fighting in the southern part of the West Bank.
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in favor of such a potential move- it is more so a recommendation based on observations.)
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/01/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-police.html
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Not direct translations but both can work, رعب is horror, رهب is terror
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The tag really should have been placed there from the outset
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It has been done already, so I'll just mark this done.
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