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proper place to raise policy questions about how the move requests are closed at WP:RM, feel free to enlighten me). You have not until now addressed my principal questions, but rather defended your reasons for a page move. I understand that Knowledge is run by amateurs, which is one of it's strengths, but one downside is that it's extremely difficult to get principal discussions on policies, routines and so forth going. Now you've finally addressed my concerns by saying that "over the last year and a half there has been a move away from just counting opinions to decide these issues to also looking at the Knowledge policies and giving administrators more discretion". As a Swede I think that concepts like democracy, clarity and accountability are important, so I'm concerned by this development that shifts the "power" from the regular users to the hands of a few admins, who you yourself has said makes a lot of closings in short spaces of time. These are the questions that I think would be better off discussed at another place than in a review of a page move that no-one seemed to care about.
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reasons for the moves. Basically I agreed with you (Sebisthlm) that the names should be anglicized. If consensus is you only problem then consider I as my opinion was the same as yours that there was a consensus to move the pages. Please remember that anyone can move a page and if the others were being moved because they were being anglicized then it definitely made sense to move
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follow the rest of the sports sections rather than the parent organization, but with "amateur football" as disambiguation to not be mistaken with AAC-OAG. If there would be a problem with consistency between the parent organization and the sports clubs, I think (since translating the football club is out of the question) the parent organization should either be at
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me from making suggestions on how to (in my opinion) improve WP:RM guidelines? Lastly, My point is not that local consensus should override policies and guidelines, it's that a single admin shouldn't unilaterally override local consensus on controversial page moves by his interpretation of policies and guidelines, and without looking into the subject at hand.
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no administrator has even flagged it as an inappropriate decision. I suspect that this is because over the last year and a half there has been a move away from just counting opinions to decide these issues to also looking at the Knowledge policies and giving administrators more discretion. Take this
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The discussion was over 5 days old the usual time for a WP:RM. WP:RMs are not just about finding a consensus. I will not move a page to a name that clearly breaks Knowledge policies and guidelines even if there is a consensus for the move, not would any other responsible admin. In this case I gave my
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I'm afraid I have to agree with Yodaki that you came to a strange conclusion of a consensus for a move here. Even if mine and Yodaki's discussion wasn't very intense, we were still debating on how to proceed. i was thinking of amending or possibly withdrawing my requests but waiting with a faint hope
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I will explain. AFAICT Associação Académica de Coimbra - O.A.F. or some combination is used in the English media for the professional football team so I see no need to move the article. But for the the other names I do not see a common English usage for any of them so the names should be translated
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article by no means shows that the local name is to be preferred to the English name. Further examples like Fiat is pointless as that is a common English name for the cars manufactured by the "Fiat Group" (The group uses the term on their Italian language web site rather than Gruppo so that is not a
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On the smaller issue of reviewing your page move, I have said that I think the move of the stadium was wrong since Stadiums aren't translated per WP:COMMON (again, see all the category:football venues above). Are you actually saying that all these hundreds of Stadiums should be translated and moved.
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First of all, I'm having trouble understanding what you write. I know you probably write a lot on WP in short periods of time, but try to express yourself a bit more clearly (especially when you're discussing with two non-native English speakers). Second of all, are you actually trying to discourage
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for Lisbon because it is unlikely that the local signage will be in English -- so the "Lonely Planet Portugal" is not a very useful source for deciding on the appropriate name in this encyclopaedia). The consistency argument put forward by the proposer is I think confused. It makes no more sense to
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states "Convention: Name your pages in English and place the native transliteration on the first line of the article unless the native form is more commonly recognized by readers than the English form.". If the foreign name (in a Latin Alphabet) has a common usage in English then it can stay as is
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produced one policy or guideline statement that indicates that my decision on closing this RM was at fault. Please consider that the backlog of WP:RM needs emptying again and if every decision was questioned this much few if any moved would be made. Also consider despite raising it 2 times on the
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are good examples of redirects which could be included in that job. The red links on this page are also a good start to please all potential English-based searches for Académica's sections, departments, etc. It must be noted that disambiguation pages were already created for Academica, Académica,
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the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be
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get 25.100 English hits). The multi-sports section (of which several compete or have competed in national competitions) should also not be translated for the same reasons as the football club, but be disambiguated by the different sports (in English). The amateur football section should probably
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Now we're getting somewhere. As I've said all along I have two concerns with these closings: the principal concern of how these RM's were closed, and the smaller concern about the actual reasons for the moves. I raised the first question at WP:ANI in lack of a better place to turn (if there is a
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says "Most move requests are processed by a handful of RM regulars who are familiar with naming conventions, nonbinding precedents, and page moving procedures". I have done you the courtesy of waiting for you to come up with a reason why my judgement on this was faulty but to date you have not
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is easily undestood (slang) as "the guy whose girlfriend is cheating him" this college/university sports team's name would be a total joke. I urge you to understand that sports teams are usually referred to by its real native designation or, at least, by a short form of its native designation.
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Yeah, but the problem is that you weren't part of the discussion, so your arguments never got the chance to get tried, as mine or Yodaki's were. Your arguments were also different from mine, e.g. adding the Stadium (I was personally thinking of amending the RM after my discussion with Yodaki).
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I said luckily we do not have to right all the wrongs of stadia naming on this page. If you think the word building should be translated why not the word stadium? I am not suggesting that a foreign name that is commonly used in English should be translated, that would be silly and against the
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Basically, if the vote is 1-1, how can that be a consensus for a move? Additionally, the RM was closed prematurely - even if the discussion had halted we could have slowly come up with a compromise. Either way, you single-handedly decided to move the pages without consensus, changing the move
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OK, I wasn't actually saying you acted on a whim and rhetorically asking the question seemed to just cloud the question, since you're still not answering my policy question. You have only provided your arguments in favour of a page move, arguments that had been much appreciated at the actual
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requests and adding Estádio Universitário de Coimbra. You should have instead adding your views and suggestions into the discussion, so they could have been debated. Again, I would like to be very clear that I didn't think you did this by any malice, the RM was just not handled properly.
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The professional football team and this organisation are not directly related. The professional football team name is mentioned in a number of English language sources and those sources should be followed. Travel guides tend to use the local name (such as
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I'm also leaning towards that moving the different sports branches of AAC was wrong if they are professional sports clubs playing in national domestic competitions; In that case they shouldn't be translated, but moved to their WP:COMMON name.
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discussion. I agree with some of them but not all (certainly not translating the stadium name). The main question is still, how can you make a clearly controversial page move when there is no consensus? What policy support such an action?
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I suggest that we make all possible combinations of the names in English for all the sports sections/teams, and redirect those combinations to the current articles which were created with the official full name in Portuguese.
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I disagree, because an armature university team such as this is not notable in the English speaking world (as it is in a league for a country which has only participated in the first round of the Rugby World Cup just once
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who knows you may get a consensus to make such a change. But I suggest you do not use this as an example as suggestion that a local consensus should over-ride policies and guidelines will probably not get you very far.
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that you cite applies in cases where there is an English term that is used in English. I don't think it's supposed to be used to translate e.g. name of corporations, associations or sports teams, unless in cases like
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Sebisthlm, good suggestion. I can't still agree with a different name for the parent institution (the AAC), however, your suggestion will be a remedy of last resort in order to revert all the mess we have seen here.
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but if not then it should be translated. There is no evidence that "Estádio Universitário de Coimbra" is a common name in English all five pages return by Google search of English pages are in Portuguese "
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statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this
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Knowledge? "Associação Académica" is impossible to write on a non-portuguese keybord, and it's impossible for an English user to know what to look for when searching Wiki. Have you read
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So you're maintaining that all those French, Spanish and Italian football Stadia should be translated? That's an astonishing viewpoint, but I'll put it forward to all the rest over at
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Yes it should be discussed on the specific talk page and see my qualification above: "or some combination is used in the English media for the professional football team". --
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Using a Portuguese source makes it difficult to follow, but I do not see any more connection between the professional football team and the student union than I do between
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Which policy questions? See above "If consensus is you only problem then consider I as my opinion was the same as yours that there was a consensus to move the pages." --
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the professional team. It also includes wikipedia entries. If you limit the pages to English pages, include the word "student" and exclude "Knowledge". The results is "
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Are you saying you don't follow the outcome of RM debates, but rather that you make the decisions yourself? In that case, what's the point in listing move requests at
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I don't think you read my post properly (or perhaps I wasn't making myself clear). By "the football club (AAC-OAG)" I meant the professional football club
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The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere. The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
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Your not adressing my principle objection of how you managed the moves. Is it policy for admins to move pages against consensus at their own whim?
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as any additional information cab be placed in this article unless the the information becomes so much that a separate article is desirable. --
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I really hate multiple relists, but I think we're deadlocked here. More input is especially welcome, as are statistics regarding sources. --
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that indicates that the university itself uses "Coimbra Academic Association" when addressing an English speaking audience. Looking at the
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Furthermore, you're saying that you didn't and don't consider an eventual consensus when closing RM's, which is my main concern.
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It works the other way, the non translation into English in English reliable sources is necessary, to show that the rules about
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How does the university website in English "Students Association - "AAC" support Coimbra Academic Association as a title?
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Then why most of the Spanish stadium keep in original Spanish form? The notability of the translation is a factor.
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article is not clear whether there is or isn't any formal relation today. If the consistency argument between
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get 12700 hits, so I have all along been certain which is the common name of the professional football club.
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that some new blood would join the discussion. I don't know how you got a 1-1 vote as a consensus for a move.
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Luckily we do not have to right all wrongs of stadia naming on this page, but a look at the links in the
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PBS, you did it all wrong and broke all the rules. What a mess you've made of the AAC's articles.
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name this academic association after the football team than it would to move the the article on
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PBS man (or boy, I don't know), imagine this comparision/example: In Portuguese we never call
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listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are
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It was not on a whim. I have explained this above see "The discussion was over 5 days...". --
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should apply. Also it will make the leads easier to write because they can take the form "
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actually the football badge may be slightly different, looking at image search to check
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And what combinations are those, besides Académica (de) Coimbra or just Académica?
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get 10 English hits on google (no-one as a translation of the football team) while
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with the second one BHG decided to move the page without a consensus to do so (see
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I think you have misunderstood what I wrote above about this issue, but see also
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would you expect it to be under its English name on the Portuguese Knowledge? --
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Majority of English-language sources at the article refer to the proposed name.
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I have now raised some principal questions on how these RMs were closed over at
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