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Ediphor was an amazing technology, but General Electric's Taleria projector was another oil-based light valve that was, in many ways, more advanced. Both should be listed. Also, the idea that the Xenon-lamped light valve couldn't be viewed in a well-lit room is a bit silly. If you put it on a
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