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170:, thanks for improving this article and taking it to GA. I've reviewed a number of nominations before and will review this article for you. Firstly, thanks for trying to edit an article on this topic. It has always been one of the more difficult areas for me and I can see that, although you've only made edits to the article yesterday, you are an active editor and the article is at first glance near a state where GA might be considered. Also you may have been planning to edit it some more while it waits months for a review but - surprise! - you get one the next day :). I'm going to make some preliminary comments, put the article on hold, and then continue my review when those comments are addressed. I am reviewing against the 698: 672: 563: 520: 461: 428: 406: 639: 587: 542: 483: 347: 325: 760:"Recent research has pointed to multiple different explanations for conduction aphasia, which is based on newer models suggesting language is facilitated by "cortically based, anatomically distributed, modular networks." In simpler terms, the research is based on the fact that it is most likely that is occurs with the condition being built through the cerebrum" 42: 752:(eg diagnosis "Individuals with conduction aphasia are able to express themselves fairly well, with some word finding and functional comprehension difficulty. Although people with aphasia may be able to express themselves fairly well, they tend to have issues repeating phrases, especially phrases that are long and complex. " should be part of symptoms. 803:
The caption of the second image - "Video of a woman who suffers from conduction aphasia. Notice how some of her words sound jumbled or messed up" describes expressive aphasia and paraphasias, common to most types of aphasia, without highlighting the critical hallmarks or conduction aphasia, which is
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I do not find the text of the article is clear, maybe because it is very wordy ("However, aphasics recognize their paraphasias and errors and will repetitively try to correct them. Typically, an aphasic will make multiple attempts correcting phonological speech errors until they are successful. This
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you have been very responsive, I don't think you're going to be able to correct a lot of the subject matter related problems accurately in a reasonable time frame. I will fail this article for the moment and invite you to renominate when you feel this article is ready. I suggest prior to nomination
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I figured this might take at least a week or so to address so I'm going to put this article on hold. If there's no or minimal progress within two weeks I'll mark the article as failed; otherwise I'll do a more thorough review. This is a difficult topic to understand and write about so I think it's
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Some references are too old to be used appropriately here - most should be within the last 5 - 10 years to ensure information is current. This is important for an article like this where the underlying cause has not been completely elucidated. I refer here to
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Also lastly, I see you're not mainly a medical editor, yet some areas of this topic are quite complex. If you do need some help with a medical part of the article (such as the pathophysiology section), you may be able to get some help by asking at
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The text refers continually to "patients". I would read through the text and make sure it's reworded to be people-centric, remembering that people with this condition spend most of their lives not in a hospital (I refer to the style guideline
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The pathophysiology section needs to be improved, explaining in general form what leads to the damage, and will need to be written in a way that is more definitive and with a better source (such as a review article - see
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The pathophysiology section is not right. "It is entirely unclear, although the cause is known, what leads up to the condition.". There are several very well known causes, including strokes, and risk factors for these
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There is one image, and its relevance to the topic and caption need to be improved. You could consider adding one or two more images to help demonstrate things such as what is a stroke to a lay reader
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The first image does not relate to the topic. Where is the mention of Conduction aphasia? The highlighted images relate to expressive (Broca's) and receptive (Wernicke's areas)
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for this (2) look at some other medical good articles for comparison for content and structure, (3) check for copyright problems again and (4) nominate at
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recognition is due to preserved auditory error detection mechanisms. Error sequences frequently fit a pattern of incorrect approximations")
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when you're ready, to get feedback from medical editors relating to the subject's accuracy and subject matter. Cheers --
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important to get it right! Cheers and thanks for thinking about GA, I think it's achievable without too much effort.
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The article needs more wikilinks; there are lots of concepts or anatomical structure mentioned that need to be linked
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I have replaced the wording and changed it to "aphasics", "aphasic people", "person", "aphasic person".
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I've added to the pathophysiology section by defining what leads up to it and simplifying the wording.
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Reworded almost all copyright violations until Earwig's copyright detector said "violation unlikely".
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Many sources lack publication dates, access dates, or are older than 5 - 10 years as specified per
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The article is still written from a clinician-patient perspective which is not in keeping with
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I worry that "aphasic" and "sufferers of aphasia" and such terms are stigmatising and violate
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This made me laugh, it is so general and also illustrative of the wordiness problem:
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Overall I find the text easy to read, which is important for such a difficult topic
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On closer inspection, I don't think this article meets GA criteria and, although
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Will check when other concerns have been addressed. On initial inspection, yes
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Many parts of the article need to be reordered to appropriate sections, per
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The third image does not show a stroke that could cause a condution aphasia
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again you (1) make the article simplier to read, consider contacting the
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Lastly, some parts of this article flag on a copyright check (
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Alright, I've been working on your suggested improvements.
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Reworded paragraph to get rid of a copyright violation of
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I've placed an image of a stroke to the "causes" section.
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I've added several important wikilinks to the article.
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Multiple references lack publication and access dates
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Added a video of a patient with conduction aphasia.
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