197:. I wouldn't be surprised if these are the only and final concerns of mine. I'm impressed by the work that has gone into this article. My points below are almost exclusively related to criterion 1a of the GA criteria. In many cases this is a matter of perception, so I'm also open to arguments about these points, and as the GA review is supposed to be "light-handed" (and of course I'm assuming good faith), I'm of course open to discuss these suggestions.
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In the first paragraph, the sentence “To date, $ 19 million had been spent on construction (equivalent to $ 204 million in 2019).”, is this the summing-up of the total cost of the cathedral throughout its construction period? The sentence would, I think, benefit from a bit of clarification on between
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The sentence which starts with “The church would be called” contains the wording “after the term for a bishop's seat ("cathedra", from the Greek word for "seat")” which simply is an explanation to the word “cathedral”, no? I think it confuses more than it clarifies. If the reader wants to know why
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The first sentence reads “The nave was designed by Cram.” while the fourth begins with “These dimensions are about the same as in Cram's original plans”. It’s a little bit confusing: is the nave built according to Cram’s designs or not? Although you’ve mentioned that Cram revised his plans as work
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The first sentence here is the first time you mention Rafael
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Thank you for a swift reply and quickly addressing the points above. I just have one final point now. In the lead it says it's the worlds largest
Protestant cathedral, but in the text it says is the largest Anglican cathedral together with that of Liverpool (depending on how you measure). Is it
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In the last paragraph, you write about the bronze doors: “They comprise one of four bronze-door commissions designed by Wilson before his death” – the other three were not for St. John the Divine? I was a bit confused since you then write about wooden doors. You may want to consider if you can
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In the first paragraph, the last sentence: “Additionally, the
Barberini tapestries were gifted to the cathedral in 1891.” – the reader may be interested to know a bit more about what the Barberini tapestries are, a brief description or rephrasing could be helpful to make the text clearer here.
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In the first sentence, “originally” is a bit vague; when are we talking about exactly? One idea is to simply skip this, and go straight to “The neighborhood of
Morningside Heights was first settled by the Dutch, then by the British.” That is was rural is implied clearly through the following
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I actually did find the time to read the whole article with care today. I have gathered some observations which would, I think, need to be addressed before concluding the GA review. I will use the coming days to further scrutinize the article, but I can already now say that I find it to be
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I'll be happy to commit to reviewing this important article. It's quite long, and I'm usually quite busy during the week, but I will strive to do it within reasonable time. Bear with me though if there are days on which I cannot find the time.
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How about "which typically emphasized vertical elements and height less"? Otherwise "short in height" does convey the message, although I agree it's not the most elegant way to put it.
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Clarified - this is in the height. I welcome any suggestions for improvement on this wording, since "short in height" is probably not the best way to phrase this sentence.
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