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If you weight more then this and ride the frame you avoid the warranty. This also highlights one of the often missed point of the "legalize my cannondale" campaign. The UCI weight limit is there under the pretence of safety. At the time
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exception of 2 or 3 road specific shops, it would be hard to find a shop that doesn't stock common seals for freeride forks like the 888RC or Fox 36. It's possible the popularity of high-end ($ 3000+) mountain bikes has driven demand for repair parts. Where are you that none of the shops stock fork parts?
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to "Cannondale started to manufacture aluminum bicycle frames in the 1980s." I believe that they were selling complete bikes from their early days, and at the time the frames did not have the CAAD designation - at least they were not marketed that way (I know because I bought one in 1986). They made
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The article might be read by people who aren't in the bike industry and don't know about other light-weight frames. But a citation isn't needed for the bike being heavy (or heavier, or as heavy); it's for "Many in the bicycle industry considered this to be a creative marketing ploy". Who in the
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