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Avengers teaser, so why don't you recap everything from there? They were also shown after the end credits. I repeat - there's not only Fury ad Cap scene after the end credits. You just need to see that it was just part of the teaser, its beginning. If that was a real ending scene, distributors wouldn't allow cinemas show it earlier. It was
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If you watched linked videos, you'd see that it wasn't post-credits scene but The
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First thank you for inviting me here, instead of edit-warring. However, I feel the sentence was poorly worded. A good plot summary does not provide narration, it simply summarizes the narrative. But to the main point, being a teaser or a coda is not mutually exclusive. It can be
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