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587:" but not much more than that. When describing the assumptions that a simple abstract model is based on, there's not really much wiggle room - there are bound to be strong similarities, certain keywords are likely to be reused &c, even if two people devise texts completely independently. If there were similarities in other bits of the text (for instance, in the choice of real-world examples) then that would be much more suspicious, but I don't think that's the case here... 179: 200: 289: 99: 81: 50: 109: 21: 210: 548:
logical manner. More sourcing would be good (more sourcing is almost always good) and the thinkgeography source would be acceptable, but I don't think we can say there was any plagiarism. However if you have specific areas of concern, please describe them in more detail and we can have another look.
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It's quite possible that the original writing copied someone's textbook or course notes but we can't tell for sure what that source was. It's also possible that the original writing was, well, "original" and the similarities are a result of there being only so many ways to explain a concept in a
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from at least 21 May 2003. I now have to revise my opinion a little bit, there is a possibility the wording of the "assumptions" was copied, even though the structuring is different in places. It is still also possible that this wording is the standard presentation. Even if we wanted to add
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I've looked at this in some detail and I find it unlikely that the thinkgeography pdf was plagiarised. No specefic examples were given but I assume the "Building the theory", "Predictions of the theory" and "Evaluation" sections are the ones in question. This material was moved from the
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writing on the theory, since it builds in a logical manner: basic principles, simplest first, structure of the theory, predictions, shortcomings. The list of assumptions is similar but note for instance that the equal transport cost assumption is written up in a completely different
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The material there was unsourced. A search of the Internet Archive (archive.org) shows only one version of the pdf, from 28 Sep 2007, although it is possible the pdf existed in 2005. Is is also possible the pdf was written using the Knowledge article as a
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attribution, there is now the question of where that document actually originated. We shouldn't be attributing a source if that source is itself a copy of someone else's work. I may ask over at the Economics wikiproject.
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The formatting and sometimes exact wording of this article looks like it was copied from the third external think (a pdf from thinkgeography.org). Someone have the time to investigate/rewrite/cite properly?
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Thanks for looking into this - I really appreciate it your thoroughness. Hopefully this article will be improved through the
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Update: the source in question definitely existed before our article was first written, hosted
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I'm not convinced that it's a copy. There are some similarities in wording, such as "
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The structure of the material is somewhat similar, but will likely be similar in
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