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1384:"It has often been observed that one of the flock members sat higher and was noisier than the others, for unclear reasons." The sentence mixes past tense ("sat," "was") with present perfect tense ("It has often been observed"), which creates an awkward construction; suggest either present perfect tense ("It has often been observed that one of the flock members sits higher and is noisier than the others, for unclear reasons.") or simple past tense ("It was often observed that one of the flock members sat higher and was noisier than the others, for unclear reasons.") depending on whether the observation is considered ongoing or purely historical. 128: 107: 257: 21: 1515:"In 2002, a company explored another property bordering one of the forest fragments for marble and granite using explosives" this seems unusual to me, as marble and granite are typically not explored or prospected using explosives (usually geological surveys, core sampling, and non-destructive methods are first), but I suppose this is Brazil, where environmental policies are presumably less restrictive … 76: 619: 598: 629: 866: 1584:(maybe this was supposed to be "sparked"?) prompted a number of surveys". "The tanager may become an attraction for ecotourism from which locals may benefit" could be perceived as speculative or promotional. A more neutral phrasing might be "There are proposals to develop ecotourism around the tanager, which could potentially benefit local communities." 138: 1636:"The uppertail coverts have white spots at their ends that may have a signal function as they are sometimes prominently presented by the birds." This sentence is a bit awkward. Consider rewording to "The uppertail coverts have white spots at their ends, which may serve a signaling function as the birds sometimes prominently display them." 1098: 1058:
I checked all statements cited to Bauer et al. 2000 and several to Santos et al. 2021, and confirm that the material cited to these sources is supported by the text in the sources and is reasonably paraphrased. The article meets all of the GA criteria and I'll promote it at this time. I've appended
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I used this more careful wording because the source only reported the number of eggs that the observed clutches contained, but it does not make the generalization that this would be the case for the species as a whole. I am fine with changing it, but I feel that the current wording is more prudent
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Neutrality: be cautious about statements that might be seen as overly dramatic, such as "There seems little hope that this distinctive, presumably forest, species could still be extant." Consider rephrasing such statements to maintain a more objective tone. Others: "The rediscovery of the species
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source says "Intensive surveys have encountered only eleven individuals of Cherry-throated Tanager Nemosia rourei, and the global population is unlikely to be much greater." which is close but not quite what the article says ("10 individuals in 2020"), so I thought I'd mention it; this number is
1650:"The Cherry-throated Tanager Conservation Program of the Marcos Daniel Institute implemented various conservation measures such as monitoring, research, and public engagement." The verb tense is inconsistent with the rest of the paragraph. Consider changing "implemented" to "has implemented". 1167:"Known nests have contained two or three eggs," Personally, I've always thought the word "Known" was redundant in these sorts of expressions, i.e., we sort of assume that these expressions of facts are made based on instances of documented observations, unless told otherwise. 1501:"Modeling of the potential distribution of the species suggested that CaparaĂł National Park might be suitable for the species, but 2021 surveys to the area were unsuccessful." suggest stating explicitly in what way the surveys were unsuccessful. 1522:
This is what the source says. It's a small property, so I guess they just use the cheapest and quickest way possible. Brazil tends to have rules for everything, but the big problem there is law enforcement, which often does simply not
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The phrase "This mask is nearly meeting at the nape" is somewhat awkward, using a present continuous tense ("is meeting") for a static description, which doesn't fit right; suggest "This mask almost meets at the nape" or
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Took over all suggestions. Regarding the quote, do you think it should be removed? This quote was selected by one of the sources (not by myself), and it seems to reflect the opinion at that time quite well.
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Great, thanks! Yes, I intend to bring this to FAC. Also note that I'm currently at a conference and will have some field work afterwards, so appologies if I cannot always respond promptly.
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Maybe introduce the quote with a phrase that contextualizes it as a historical opinion, such as: Reflecting the pessimism of the time, Scott and Brooke remarked in 1985 that "quote"...
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We apparently don't have that info. We know that the plate was originally published in black-and-white in the journal, but the plate itself was in color and stored in Frankfurt.
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That information does not exist yet. The section mostly draws from from the action plan; a paper on these new findings appears to be forthcoming but has not been published yet.
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that's a pretty thin black line for the circle on the distribution map that could be hardly perceptible for some (like me without glasses); suggest bolding or brightening it.
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advises that abbreviations should generally be avoided unless there's a good justification for them; here, I think "about" or "approximately" is better
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similarly with this sentence: "and the gray scapulars (shoulder feathers) are sometimes dropping over the wing to form a gray shoulder patch." -: -->
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In appearance (added now). Only two specimens have actually been measured, so I don't think we can be certain about a lack of differences in size.
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The "Reproduction" section could be expanded with more details on incubation period and fledgling development, if such information exists.
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Comments: Looks good overall; here's a list of mostly prose tweak suggestions. I'll check citations and do spot checks on the next pass.
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Hi Jens, I'll review this one. Comments in a few days. Let me know if this is FAC-bound and I could be extra nitpicky (if you like).
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other bird FACs I've seen give the vocalisations as italics, so you might want to check the bird's project's best practices for
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according to the Knowledge (XXG) article, it's "Emilie" rather than "Emilia" (although I see the literature is inconsistent…)
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I requested the change from the creator of the image (for some reason I don't have the rights to overwrite the file myself).
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suggesting linking destruction to habitat destruction; plumage; breeding pair; Mata de Caetés in lead image caption
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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the updated range map now shows a light circle within a darker circle; I don't know if that was intended.
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Thank you very much for the detailed review! I addressed all comments, with a few questions. --
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some additional nitpicky comments that don't affect GA status, but might help for FAC.
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The map has now been updated, too. Let me know if you have any further comments! --
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maybe link off-road racing; conservation; nature reserve; action plan
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it seems that the page range for Venturini et al. 2005 is incorrect
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20 individuals were known and the total population was estimated"
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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had been no confirmed sightings for more than 100 years,"
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interesting research wasn't mentioned in the article
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