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Managment district, demonstrating that the managment districts are involved in branding areas themselves. In any case, I see no reason why the management district's definition of "Chinatown" should take precedence over others. The lead could describe Chinatown as "an area in far southwest Houston centered by part of the upper Bellaire Boulevard corridor, with many differing ideas about its boundaries and relationships to other neighborhoods." Just another option to consider.
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government buildings, and landmarks, or are they more just mechanisms for distributing localized funding? I don't like having duplicative articles on every layer of community planning. But yes, if some groups consider an area part of a neighborhood that's not in an arbitrary planning zone, it should be mentioned.
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I'm not super familiar with Houston, but as a matter of general principle, there's nothing about our policies that gives government authorities more weight than non-government authorities just because they're "official". In fact, in the case of strong local media, I'd say the latter sometimes carries
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The other party argues that the GHCVB is not a government body and that it cannot be counted as "official". The other party argues that only "official" definitions should be used/quoted in the article, and that the GHCVB one should be excluded from consideration in the article. The other party states
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was recognized, especially along business corridors, but small, mainly residential neighborhoods did not want the city to lose their local voice on city issues by being included in a large Koreatown designation. The "official" boundaries were limited in order to take this into account. Planners might
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transcriptions is probably something that should always be done, but in most Chinatowns Cantonese transcriptions are definitely the "original" (though perhaps not in Houston). Isn't there a simple option in the ZH-template to make pinyin not be the first transliteration? Perhaps just switching MAND
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That is not true, Hong Kong and Macau articles frequently only contain Cantonese transcriptions, and many North American articles are similarly Cantonese, because Mandarin is not what the place or person speaks/spoke. Using Mandarin for a Cantonese locality where Mandarin is not the official language
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There is also a lot that could be said -- (but maybe not here) -- about the extent to which documenting changes (e.g. over time, or from one group to another, or from one place to another) in the use of language ... may tend to be challenging, partly because some speakers (or authors) may feel free
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I think there's a third alternative here: have a single, more vague description in the lead. The Lisa Gray article cited makes the point that "Chinatown" is at least partly a branding exercise. Though the article does not mention it, the Southwest Management District used to be called the Sharpstown
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article or some other combination among these, so as to better present related information together. It does seem weird though that International and Southwest appear to be the only management districts with articles: are these really neighborhoods of sorts that need their own pages listing schools,
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s definition of Chinatown in the lead (as proposed by WhisperToMe) or having a single, more vague description in the lead (as suggested by Oldsanfelipe2). I encourage editors to discuss these two options further in a separate RfC as many RfC participants did not state which option they preferred so
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No matter what the "original" transliteration is, a Mandarin translation will always exist for it. I never said that Mandarin was the "original" for any of these - I simply only found the Mandarin ones - that's all. I did say "I found no evidence that any dialect of Chinese other than Mandarin is
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By the way, regarding " and/or maybe even including asking someone who lives in Southwest Houston!" - WP:V says that published sources, not personal experiences, determine the content on here. However being a local has an advantage in that one may more easily know of published sources which
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The writer of this entry on Chinatown, Houston said that it has been an area of settlement for Chinese Mexicans. I assume this is a more recent population of Chinese Mexicans that has settled since the 1970's or so. Historically, Chinese Mexicans preferred El Paso and San Antonio.
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There is a clear consensus that the management district's definition of "Chinatown" should not take precedence over other definitions like those from local media. There is a clear consensus that the lead should not be restricted to using only the management district's definition of
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I'd like to know where the writer got his/her info on the Chinese Mexicans settling in the Bellaire Chinatown area. I'd like to know how many Chinese Mexicans the writer believes live in the Bellaire Chinatown of Houston. And I'd like to know when they settled and what they do.
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in its definition of "Chinatown". The article itself notes that there are multiple ethnicities in the area and that there were proposals/views to label the area "Asiatown" and the like instead. The area east of (inside) Beltway 8 is more ethnic Chinese.
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I had already looked (on January 22, 2018) at the web page that came up, on my ChromeBox desktop computer (which is similar to a ChromeBook laptop ... I think they both use the same "ChromeOS" ... and the same Chrome browser) when one enters the URL
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gets its map boundaries from, but it's a good idea to check. As the City of Houston municipal government itself has no specific definition of Chinatown, there are different entities and agencies with their own definitions. Lori Rodriguez of the
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did turn out to be wrong. and in need of being updated, then ... the "DIY" methods available to the ordinary "person in possession of some 'correction' information" might or might not make it easy to get the search giant to make the needed
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The question is whether the lead of the article should only mention definitions of Chinatown from local government bodies, or whether it should mention other definitions of Chinatown quoted by secondary sources such as newspapers.
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I argue that the article should consider any definition that is either from a government body or one quoted in a secondary source (say a newspaper article), and that the more expansive GHCVB definition should be considered as the
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It is true that a person who is knowledgeable may know where the reliable sources of a topic are. Since I grew up in Houston I'm aware of the publications and agencies which may have the information needed to write such
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IMHO it is probably not the job of this Knowledge article to mediate between multiple purveyors of "boundary definitions", nor to try to promote one definition over another. Helping readers to be able to learn what the
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a transliteration: it's just a Cantonese one (gatseon). Drop the final "t" on 吉 as is common in non-HK dialects and there you go. Perhaps this is indicative of something relevant to the above discussion....?
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I agree that we should be using most-commonly used definitions, especially those from reliable third-party sources. A government-only definition may be something useful at some point in the article though.
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In order to use the Google Maps boundary for Chinatown, I need to know where they are getting it from. It's unlikely, IMO, that Google arbitrarily decided to write their own boundary for Chinatown.
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My point is just that, "an area of settlement for Chinese Mexicans" might have been "one word away from" saying what was really intended, and ... if so ... then ... what was really intended,
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of that comment about "an area of settlement for Chinese Mexicans" ... was really intended to say, ... something more like: that it had been an area of settlement for Chinese AND Mexicans.
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I am the editor of a Univ of Texas book on the history of Asian Americans in Texas, and I found your Knowledge website very useful for this neighborhood-related information.
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to choose their own favorite way of talking or writing ... which may be done with a lot or a little (or, no) regard for "official" pronouncements or edicts. (See e.g. the
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Communities may be defined differently for different purposes and it is difficult and limiting to try to designate one as the official one. The economic influence of
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specific version (the "18:52, 15 December 2017" version) of the article ... which was the most recent version, at the time when these comments were written.
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Honestly, I would take every information found on Knowledge with a grain of salt. I wouldn't rely on Knowledge as a source, especially for a scholarly book.
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There is little or no disagreement about the NORTH and SOUTH boundaries, and the disagreement about the EAST boundary (Fondren vs. Gessner or "just slightly
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Wait, is Houston's Chinatown a Mandarin Chinatown? If it's like most North American Chinatowns, all those readings are wrong, because it would be Cantonese.
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to help some energetic editor to edit in an "update" or a change -- perhaps with a footnote! -- to "correct" the lede of this article. ("if appropriate".)
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of "legal entities" -- (or other "official" definitions) -- may or may not "keep up" promptly with some of the ('evolving') ways of using language.
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point of disagreement, was regarding the WEST boundary. The article ("as of" the "18:52, 15 December 2017" version) says that the WEST boundary is
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or the lede of this article, would be updated (/slash "corrected") so that they would be in agreement. That would be nice, (wouldn't it?) -- ! --
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I agree with "some or all" of the suggestions above ... especially the "third alternative" mentioned in the last paragraph of the comments from "
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use one map for economic development and another for residential development that overlap each other. Maybe the situation is similar here.
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This is an interesting case, coming from Seattle where we have a Chinatown, Japantown, and Little Saigon, all more officially part of the
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Unless there are some responses here, within about a week or so ... I might just go ahead and ... edit the article. Now's your chance! --
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than Mandarin is used widely-extensively in this Chinatown, and remember that this is about a new Chinatown that developed in the 1990s.
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My suggestion is specific to the lead. I would rule out that only the management district's definition should be included in the lead.
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someone who lives in Southwest Houston! -- in order to help figure out what was originally intended (/slash, what is really true).
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According to the Greater Houston Convention and Visitors Bureau (GHCVB) it is roughly bounded by Fondren Road, Beechnut Street,
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Can anyone provide a better photo? This blurry one, shot through a dirty windshield, is not very descriptive of the subject.
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some kind of published book or periodical or other document, (e.g., to "refer to" in a footnote), but whereby, one can still
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about transliterations from Chinese characters into romanizations. Inclusion of Hanyu Pinyin is perfectly fine IMO. --
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a term, such as "Chinatown") would probably be useful ... especially if the details are relegated to a section which
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With the correct tones. though it would take me far less time if they weren't requested. and note the spacing.
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Another clue might be, the sentence (at the end of the first paragraph of this article) that says:
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Gessner Road: Jíshùn Lù (don't know why it's "Jishun", which is certainly not a transliteration)
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included with Chinese text. If other dialects are involved, those readings are also included.
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readers might want to SKIP, if they are less concerned with knowing the exact "boundaries".
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the City-defined super neighborhood, which have mostly the same boundaires but not always),
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Please note that in many cases there is no single set of boundaries for a neighborhood:
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I'm happy with moving the specific details to a subsection. For the Third Ward I wrote
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Anyway, based on the research I did, I found no evidence that any dialect of Chinese
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section about the "difference between descriptive and prescriptive grammar" ... at
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gets its map boundaries from), it does seem like it would be better, if ... either
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talks about this in one section. That's why there are disparities between sources.
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it? or ... by pointing to it in some way) (maybe even via a link to something in "
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recent version of) the article, containing some info that is sorta informally "
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Definition(s) of Chinatown used/cited by the article Request for Comment (RFC)
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That would perhaps have (properly) fit in with the process whereby, one must
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asking someone who is herself not necessarily a "reliable source". Thank you.
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WEST: the east side of the "Sam Houston Tollway" (also known as "Beltway 8")
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Since others here probably care more about the articles in the Knowledge
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intentional mistake), (e.g. in the second sentence of this article), then
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If so, then ... "no comment" from me about whether the writer who
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Ah, I missed it since these are not linked in the left column of
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You're welcome! BTW Mike I indeed wrote and edited that part :)
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The full map of the Houston area's management districts are here
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it was not possible to determine which option has consensus.
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As shown here, Town Park and Westline do have Chinese names
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