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spectators as "modern snooker's nearest equivalent to a bare knuckle prize fight." Everton goes on to suggest that when Reardon moved away, "the edge went from Wilson's game." - direct quotes should be followed by a citation - I realise you have them, but you should put it directly after. Best Wishes,
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I think these were still the days when anyone could apply and the WPBSA would decide on whether to accept them. He didn't apply immediately. Morrison (1988) says "Cliff regained his Welsh crown in 1979 and shortly afterwards decided to try his hand at the professional game." If I had to speculate,
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I've moved this to the last para of professional career as it seems to fit more there - that paragraph is meant to provide some views on his fast attacking style, not only as a professional, so I'm not sure if it needs to be a separate section. I added a different quote, from Everton. More may need
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Morrison (1989) has "British Isles Junior Championships" with separate columns for Under-16 and Under-19. Everton (1979) has "British Boys Championship" and "British Junior Championship" whereas Everton (1985) has "British Junior (under 16) Championships and British Junior (under 19 Championships.
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He played Reardon in both the Welsh and English Amateur Championships, and in a succession of money matches. Snooker historian Clive Everton has described Wilson as an "even more remarkable talent" than Reardon, and in 1979 described their contests, when each would attract hundreds of supporting
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I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my
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from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
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added "according to Everton" - Quote: "Wilson, 4-0 up against Grech, began to be systematically distracted with meticulously timed coughs, bangs, clatters and the lighting of cigarettes" and, about the final frame: "virtually the whole crowd on its feet baying to distract him."
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In 1953, a Sports Argus match report described Wilson as having "lived up to his reputation as the finest potter in the country, one ball being hardly in the pocket before the next one was following it in." - this quote probably needs more around it, comment on his speed
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Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's
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Commenting on Wilson's style, the Belfast Telegraph said he "scorned safety play" in winning his semi-final against Donald Scott 2โ€“0 in twelve minutes - I assume this means he decided not to play safety shots? Maybe a reword is needed.
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He was a successful junior player, known for his fast attacking snooker, and attracted large crowds for matches with fellow Tredegar player Ray Reardon. - should probably mention that he is from Tredegar and mention this is exhabition
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The following year, now a steelworker, Wilson beat Gary Owen 3โ€“2 in the final to take the British Junior title - probably needs a reword to say in the same competiton the following year, he won, defeating Gary Owen 3-2 in the final.
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e lost 5โ€“8 in the southern area final of the English Amateur Championship to Jimmy White after leading 4โ€“2, with the 16-year-old White becoming the Championship's youngest ever finalist - this isn't an article about
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Newspaper reports have various formulations including "British Youths' Snooker Championship" (for the Under-19s). I think under-19 is the best bet, as there is no consistency across sources.
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The lede should be reordered. This should be in terms of what is most important; rather than a chronological look. I'd mention he reached a height of 16th in the world rankings, won the
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The above probably needs added context that Reardon won the world title six times. Otherwise, it's just saying this person was better than someone else. Best Wishes,
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Never come across this player before, but someone who took their best years out, and played when a lot older professionally is very interesting! Best Wishes,
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Wilson built a 4โ€“0 lead in front of a 4,000 strong audience that started to deliberately distract him, - you'll need to be a bit careful here, who said this?
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He broke into the top sixteen of the world rankings for one season, 1988/89, ranked 16th, at the age of 55 - just say he was ranked 16th.
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Not able to get full names from a reliable source. Can either keep as is or reword to something like "lost one match and won the other"
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Many thanks for your review, all very constructive. I've made quite a few changes, let me know what else needs to be done.
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e 1973โ€“74 Home International series, losing 1โ€“2 against D. Lenehan of Ireland and beating W. McKerron - no full names?
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Removed this. Everton (2012) says they "clashed each year" in both, but I think there is some poetic licence there.
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The last para in professional has some publications. Please link, and if possible add who wrote it.
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Reworded - I kept the steelworker part but happy to rework (or omit that) if it will be better.
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You don't need to put via British Newspaper Archive if you don't provide a link. Best Wishes,
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Wilson turned professional in 1979 - is this because he won the Amateur championship?
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I've replaced this with another source that uses less vague language, and reworded.
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I'd guess that missing out on the B&H Masters money might have influenced him.
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I think it is important to mention he died as a professional player. Best Wishes,
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He played Reardon in both the Welsh and English Amateur Championships-what year?
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checked, and there is no author or agency credited. See reply to the next point
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I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.
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British Junior (Under-19) - under-19, unless it was the name of the comp
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you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed.
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I'd mention because of this, he did play in the Masters, which is cool
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Commenting on Wilson's style, the Belfast Telegraph s - any ideas who?
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Rest of sources are fine, but there is one to Daily Mirror. Mirror is
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It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria
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Re-written and expanded. No doubt it can be further improved.
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Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status,
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Also reworded, so please provide any further feedback.
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Removed these as they aren't useful without the url.
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