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the lead says "However, some authors do not accept the two as distinct species." But the dissenting view offered is from Köhncke and Leonhardt, an almost 25-year old opinion. Perhaps the lead sentence should instead say something like "in the past, some authors have not accepted the two" to better
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Further research reveals that "species pair" is a specific term used in lichen biology (although other biological disciplines use it as well) to refer to otherwise morphologically identical species that reproduce differently. I'll start a stub sometime.
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I think it's interesting and germaine to this article that there are at least 17 known extinct species of lemur, most of which were larger than the current versions (it's hinted at already but I think the details would be a worthy
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Thanks for reviewing! One question for you: you changed "there is more than one surviving species" to "there are more than one surviving species", which sounds really odd to me. Are you sure it is correct?
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specifically. I think I cited an abstract about the Methuen collection in some other subfossil Madagascar article, but it didn't say anything about this species except that they found it.
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In Goodman et al (2004) they mention that the subfossil remains are "presumed Holocene", and later "from Holocene paleontological sites", shouldn't that be mentioned in the article?
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and lemurids ate subfossil lemurs, or that subfossil lemurs were too big for the lemurids. Yes, it's deducible from context, but should be tweaked for unambiguity.
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I might be a bit biased here, because I think Goodman et al.'s evidence that it is a distinct species is rather weak. I changed it to a different wording.
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maybe mention explicitly that Grandidier did not specify a holotype specimen? Similarly, should mention that Goodman et al. designated a neotype
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redirects to "cryptic species complex", by the way, which doesn't make much sense) that doesn't need explanation. Swapped "extant" for "living".
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Fixed my error. Everything looks fine, will pass later tonight after I can read it through again carefully without worldly distractions.
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have you tried a Google Book search? There's a few snippets that might be useful... see for example
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doncha think the 2 m long 30 kg fossa in a henhouse reported in Louvel 1954 is worthy of a mention?
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No, unfortunately. His surname is French for "small", and a rather common word, which doesn't help.
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I did. The article already says that it probably ate subfossil lemurs (such as
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any value in including a map with the collection locations indicated?
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Thanks for the additions, I think it's "Good" enough to promote.
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snippet mentions the "Methuen collection" (not sure what that is)
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Not in Goodman et al.—will have to dig up Lamberton for that.
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Added, and also threw in the elephant birds and the hippos.
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ate both subfossil lemurs and smaller lemurids, or that
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