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daughter (commmunist Poland discrmianted against Home Army members, so he wanted to keep that part of his life under wraps, so he did not advertise it in his biographical sketches). His daughter interview also gives a very smimilar estimate of his death, as I mentioned above. I think it is extremly unlikely we are dealing with two people, with similar names, careers and date of death (but only one would be mentioned in biographical sources for Polish composers/musicians). --
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but again it does not clarify anything (no dates of birth/death or info on career other than the facts known...the only thing that source does is to note he participated in the Warsaw Uprising). What are the odds there were two contemporary Czesław Lewicki's, both composers associted with Warsaw and
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PS. I still remain concerned this is the same person. The only problem is that sources for the bio of the composer here make no claim that he worked in Polish Radio before the war (only after the war), whereas the Righteous biographies all make the claim. Note that the interview with the Righteous
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After reviewing the new source, I've merged the articles. The new source found is about the composer, but it states he worked in Polish Radio before and after the war. That fact connects all biographies together. Lack of information about his wartime history is explained in the interview with his
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https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=vHFvEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA222&dq=%22Czes%C5%82aw+Lewicki%22+szpilman&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiz6MKT2NGBAxXzr1YBHfGXA6YQ6AF6BAgJEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Czes%C5%82aw%20Lewicki%22%20szpilman&f=false
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daughter states that he tried to keep his association with Armia Krajowa quiet, as it was not something that communnist gov approved. So it is not that surprising this would be ommitted from his official bio in 1981.
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Ping in case you have access to relevant sources? I cannot find anything about Righteous Czesław Lewicki other than what is above (that he was a conductor and worked at Warswa Radio before the war; in Polish
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After finding a new source, I concluded that they are one and the same person. There is no contradictory information anymore and some good amount of overlap. Also discussed on pl wiki.
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Need further research to ensure we are not conflating bios of two people into one.
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On May 23 1978 Janina and Andrzej Bogucki and Czesław Lewicki were recognized by
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I initially thought so - name, profession (musician), location (Warsaw). But
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He worked at the Warsaw radio station before the war. In 1943, during the
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