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245: 1483:"evolution as revolution" argument that helps explain why early US institutions were so conservative, modeled on the British example. The US had one of the most conservative revolutions in human history, especially compared to what happened in France only several years later. The fact that women's rights, Native American settlement, and slavery were not adequately addressed stems from this deliberately slow-paced evolution from the British monarchy and society. Second, some reviews have examined this book in comparison to 142: 313: 107: 285: 344: 152: 585: 265: 447: 21: 1348: 1307: 1289: 1236: 1194: 1149: 1135: 921: 907: 893: 840: 806: 76: 575: 557: 686: 1495:. I am under the impression that free use of HighBeam is not widespread across the wiki. I burned a 7-day free trial in order to examine the references for this review. I don't know how long the free links will be accessible in comparison to the paid HighBeam service, so I think keeping both URLs makes sense, although it does double the sources. If 334: 1418:
I apologize to the aggregate that this review has taken as long as it has. It seemed to me that I should read the book upon which the article is written. Once I had started to read, it occurred to me that I may as well give as thorough an examination as I could rather than simply ensure GA criteria
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It's my impression that Madison as a reluctant Federalist wanted a stronger central government only for purposes of strong emergency response. While Ellis makes the point about blurred sovereignty being the successful argument, I suspect that it was a compromise that no one really wanted as it was
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Just wanted to post a courtesy note here that I'll probably be trying to bring this up to GA status in the coming week or two; if anyone's still active here, I'd welcome your input. My plan is to expand the content section a bit more, to add a few of the book's major themes as elaborated by critics
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Sadly, the reviews of this book have been journalistic, not academic. I certainly hope there's some academic analysis of this book, as this article would benefit. There are two academic points that could also be discussed here when there's the necessary academic study. First, Ellis posits the
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The "Argument" section should explain that Madison overcame Henry by pointing out how the Confederation government failed during the war. The current verbiage is confusing and implies that shared sovereignty and what we now call federalism was the winning play, when Madison never sought that
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who advocated holding the countryside and forcing the British to continue the occupation and attempt to strike the Continental Army. According to Ellis, Washington never made up his mind about the strategy and waited until the British attacked into the Carolinas.
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Expanded to include both. Ellis does call the blurred sovereignty part "the clinching argument" (124), so it seems worth emphasizing here. Does this address your concern? Thanks for both of these suggestions. --
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academics that have raked the dead white guys over the coals as of late. Ellis's book does not pointedly reject the subaltern criticisms of the founders but he does differ with those academics about their
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I've attempted to rewrite this to address your concerns; let me know if you find it sufficient, or what wording you would prefer. Thanks again for the suggestions. --
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and Ellis himself, a bit more background on the book's writing, and its critical reception. Thanks to everybody who worked on this before me for getting it started --
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No worries--I've been in plenty of 2- or 3-week GA reviews. There's no deadline, and I really appreciate both your thoroughness and the good suggestions above. --
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also passed). I'm unlikely to try to take this up to A-class or FA myself, but with luck a future editor can make use of these good suggestions. Cheers, --
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Wow, you're going above and beyond! Well, hope you enjoy it--I really appreciate your doing that. There's no rush on this, obviously, so take your time. --
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I approve this as a GA. I'd like to make some other comments for work to be performed concurrent with a review at the A-class or FA level:
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too weak for the New England merchant class and too strong for the Southern planter class. Regardless, your edits addressed my concerns.
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In the "Winter" section, Washington never changed strategy. Ellis makes plain that Washington was unsure about how to proceed. It was
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was signed successfully, that Georgian intransigence and McGillivray's double-dealing led to the
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This article fairly depicts the book's contents and mentions journalistic reviews of the book.
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I appreciate your taking the time to review! It's turned into my first-ever two-GA day (
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I have twice added the free and direct URLs for references that had been linked via
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Yes, I've been reading this book over the past few days. I should be done shortly.
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The section about "Treaty" should be reworded to reflect the fact that although the
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Thanks for your comments so far. Just let me know what else is needed. Cheers, --
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was met. I intend to finish this GA review on time as originally predicted.
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There are a couple points in the summary that will need to be changed:
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